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T206DK
04-16-2010, 03:26 PM
Someone really is going to pay for this card

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T206-Tris-Speaker-Rookie-Piedmont-Baseball-Card_W0QQitemZ260582638991QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Ba seball?hash=item3cabef858f


I found it humorous

Jim VB
04-16-2010, 03:34 PM
LOL! But I don't think your's wins as listing of the day.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270564594603

HRBAKER
04-16-2010, 03:38 PM
Thank goodness they both have Free Shipping.

Orions father
04-16-2010, 03:53 PM
The bidding history on the card Dave is talking about is "shilltastic".

JP
04-16-2010, 04:30 PM
The bidding history on the card Dave is talking about is "shilltastic".


Yeah, no chance any of those bids are real...

kcohen
04-16-2010, 04:47 PM
LOL! But I don't think your's wins as listing of the day.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270564594603


I'm thinking of asking Timis001 if he'll take $19,000,000.00

T206DK
04-16-2010, 05:17 PM
Jim's listing is definitely more hilarious and scary than mine. I still am fond of the "Grandfather's collection" auctions though.

BlueDevil89
04-16-2010, 06:10 PM
That T206 Speaker auction is unbelieveable. How many shill accounts does the guy have? Well, obviously at least five. That's just ridiculous.

teetwoohsix
04-17-2010, 08:20 AM
$500.00+ for a fake raw Speaker :D,,,,,,,,that's too funny.Seriously though,this is one seller that ebay needs to ban.Buyers should know what they're buying,but the whole "granpa's attic" story,and the "I only list it as a reprint because I'm not sure if it is or not" is just bogus!!!

FUBAR
04-17-2010, 10:57 AM
why would grandpa's attic only house reprints? Was grandpa some kinda cheapskate?

Republicaninmass
04-17-2010, 11:04 AM
why would grandpa's attic only house reprints? Was grandpa some kinda cheapskate?


Now but he was a Grandpa at a very young age

uffda51
04-17-2010, 11:09 AM
Why is an old reprint more valuable than a new reprint?:eek::(:confused:

lharri3600
04-17-2010, 11:11 AM
MAYBE THIS ONE RANKS PRETTY HIGH!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T206-SWEET-CAPORAL-CHIEF-BENDER-BGS-BCCG-7_W0QQitemZ270451064031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Baseb all?hash=item3ef823bcdf

FUBAR
04-17-2010, 11:30 AM
not sure that one is a reprint.... Why BCCG....

Jim VB
04-17-2010, 11:45 AM
MAYBE THIS ONE RANKS PRETTY HIGH!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T206-SWEET-CAPORAL-CHIEF-BENDER-BGS-BCCG-7_W0QQitemZ270451064031QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Baseb all?hash=item3ef823bcdf

I don't think that's a reprint, but that card in VG is probably a $150, so he's 8-10 time too high in price.

lharri3600
04-17-2010, 11:48 AM
That's the point, 3 at best

i don't think that's a reprint, but that card in vg is probably a $150, so he's 8-10 time too high in price.

FUBAR
04-17-2010, 12:04 PM
i think 20 million is a little more excessive....

Some inexperienced collectors would pay a little extra for a t206 in that nice of shape....

Bridwell
04-17-2010, 01:32 PM
Larry,

Did you notice that the BCCG 7 is defined as "Very Good or Better" on the label? I don't get what BCCG means by that grading system! What's a 10, EX+??

Ron

FUBAR
04-17-2010, 01:37 PM
They grade crap a 6 and 7 to make you feel better about your cards!

Jim VB
04-17-2010, 02:18 PM
Larry,

Did you notice that the BCCG 7 is defined as "Very Good or Better" on the label? I don't get what BCCG means by that grading system! What's a 10, EX+??

Ron

Ron,

There have been several threads on BCCG here. Check the "Search" function.

Suffice it to say, it's not the same scale you are used to. Although Beckett's web site says they use a simplified 10 point scale, that's not true. (Not that I'm calling them a liar. They're just NOT telling the truth.) The BCCG scale is from 5 to 10.

I don't have it in front of me, but it's something like this:

5 - Poor or better
6 - Good or better
7 - Very Good or better
8 - Excellent or better
9 - Near Mint or better
10-Mint or Better


In theory, the word description matches up with what we're used to. The numbers don't.

They (Beckett) claim it is designed for the mass merchandisers (HSN), but it serves no useful purpose but to deceive the unsuspecting.


Top it off with Beckett handling both grading and auctioning of graded cards, and they go on my "Don't Trust" list. (Admittedly, that list seems to get a little longer every day.) They're certainly not at the top of the list, but they're on it.

buymycards
04-17-2010, 05:48 PM
Higbee's has been around for a long time. They should know better. Their credibility just went out the window.

teetwoohsix
04-17-2010, 06:00 PM
That's a perfect example of using a BCCG grade to mislead a novice collector.I guess his "moral compass" is broken...........

tbob
04-17-2010, 10:42 PM
Does BCCG grade reprint cards? I know a couple of services do but they usually list a card as a reprint on their slab tag.
What's odd is that sometimes you will find BCCG 8s, 9s and 10s which are steals because they are in nice shape and everyone is scared of the grading service. Sometimes....