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Bicem
04-01-2010, 02:34 PM
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/

Bosox Blair
04-01-2010, 02:42 PM
There goes my shot at billing anything this afternoon...:)

Thanks for the heads-up!

Cheers,
Blair

ullmandds
04-01-2010, 02:44 PM
Holy SH$T...that's quite an auction!!!

sgbernard
04-01-2010, 02:45 PM
Unglaublich.

barrysloate
04-01-2010, 02:55 PM
Lots of great stuff!

botn
04-01-2010, 02:58 PM
Impressive, to say the least. I must get over what it is that I will not win asap.

chaddurbin
04-01-2010, 03:00 PM
pretty sexay...at least scarlett johansson hot!

edit: over/under on the extended bidding period lasting well into monday with the incredible number of goodies?

deadballera
04-01-2010, 03:00 PM
very impressive as usual. Can't wait to receive the catalog.

calvindog
04-01-2010, 03:10 PM
Bittersweet day for me. I can't have everything or even most everything I want. And I've already received my first outbid notice.

Anthony S.
04-01-2010, 03:16 PM
First of all, wow.

Secondly, I sent them an email maybe 20 minutes ago pointing out that the year given for a couple of Obaks was incorrect and they've already made the correction. Top notch.

chaddurbin
04-01-2010, 03:18 PM
i've placed initial bids on 587 lots...if i go 1/587 i'll be happy :cool:

Anthony S.
04-01-2010, 03:19 PM
I just outbid Quan on 423 lots.

calvindog
04-01-2010, 03:24 PM
I just outbid Quan on 164 lots.

FUBAR
04-01-2010, 03:24 PM
I think every single card on my want list is in this auction.. unreal stuff...

The Ruth bat... to me, that would be the dream item.... absolutely stunning!


come on lottery gods come on!!!!!!

chaddurbin
04-01-2010, 03:26 PM
anthony i'm getting outbid notice emails popping up left and right...at least i can pretend they're important work emails!

rob is really making a mockery of the pop report...he seemingly has multiples of every drool-inducing cards in the hobby.

barrysloate
04-01-2010, 03:38 PM
He's really taking bids already. I think he's like ten days early!

base_ball
04-01-2010, 03:43 PM
One of my favorite pastimes is to bid on T206 Wagners early and take a screen shot that says I am the high bidder!

chaddurbin
04-01-2010, 03:48 PM
I just outbid Quan on 164 lots.

i didn't know you or anthony are also into those turkish actresses cabinets also...otherwise i would've stayed away.

Anthony S.
04-01-2010, 03:58 PM
i didn't know you or anthony are also into those turkish actresses cabinets also...otherwise i would've stayed away.

If I collect all 25 I get to meet the Aga Khan.

jbsports33
04-01-2010, 04:29 PM
I was thinking we had to wait for the catalogs, always look forward to this auction.

Jimmy

Rich Klein
04-01-2010, 04:29 PM
Glad Rob realizes the value of making sure everyone who wants a catalog can get it (Examples to the contrary Bill Goodwin, SCP, Heritage, etc)

Regards
Rich

Matt
04-01-2010, 04:41 PM
Glad Rob realizes the value of making sure everyone who wants a catalog can get it (Examples to the contrary Bill Goodwin, SCP, Heritage, etc)

Regards
Rich

Goodwin gives out free catalogs as far as I know... now, Hunt and Heritage do indeed charge for theirs, which I can't say I understand; the one time I got Heritage to ship me a comped catalog, I bought a $6k card that I didn't see when browsing their web site and only saw in the catalog.

Rob D.
04-01-2010, 04:42 PM
Glad Rob realizes the value of making sure everyone who wants a catalog can get it (Examples to the contrary Bill Goodwin, SCP, Heritage, etc)

Regards
Rich

As a possible consignor in the future, I'm glad Rob realizes the value of not banning aggressive bidders who always pay within a day or two after the auction ends (Examples to the contrary ... oh, never mind.)

Jim VB
04-01-2010, 04:50 PM
As a possible consignor in the future, I'm glad Rob realizes the value of not banning aggressive bidders who always pay within a day or two after the auction ends (Examples to the contrary ... oh, never mind.)

Everything's about you, isn't it?


LOL!


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GrayGhost
04-01-2010, 04:54 PM
This stuff represents the cream of the crop, and is a great reference and collectible in itself. I am looking forward to my catalog also.

Rob D.
04-01-2010, 05:30 PM
Everything's about you, isn't it?


LOL!


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Me, Sheff and all the folks I've chased away.

packs
04-01-2010, 05:41 PM
That California League card is crazy. $100,000 opening bid? Any guesses on what it sells for? More than the Wagner?

B O'Brien
04-01-2010, 05:51 PM
Dang, that is some nasty card porn for us credit card shoppers!
Bob

asoriano
04-01-2010, 05:54 PM
Incredible.

joeadcock
04-01-2010, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the heads up Jeff.

Frank

paul
04-01-2010, 06:36 PM
I think it's pretty amusing that the Wagner doesn't even have the highest opening bid among baseball cards.

barrysloate
04-01-2010, 06:45 PM
The Wagner will still sell for far more than the N172 Doyle.

wolterse
04-01-2010, 06:46 PM
Lot 1594 will make a great addition to my tobacco card collection...I'm just wondering where (and how) to display it. :p

Wesley
04-01-2010, 06:59 PM
No bid yet on Barack Obama's old Jeep Cherokee.

scottglevy
04-01-2010, 07:02 PM
Im simply speechless by the quality of T207s in this auction. And that says a LOT !!

-Scott

Pup6913
04-01-2010, 07:06 PM
I just spent about 1 hour glancing and have over $80K in cards in the watchlist. Man the wife is going to be pissed when she sees all what I bid on.

Scott I agree I looked at the t207's and they are some of the best I have ever seen in one area at a time. A magnificent auction to say the least.

Bill Stone
04-01-2010, 07:17 PM
I love the T210 Stengel but why did PSA label it "Stengal" when his name is clearly spelled Stengel on the front of the card ? I was wondering --would PSA correct the label?

Steve D
04-01-2010, 07:27 PM
Let's see:

4 T206 StL Demmitts
5 T206 StL O'Haras
5 T206 Magie errors
4 T206 Planks
1 T206 Wagner

Not to mention EVERYTHING else!!!!!

I need a sugar mama!!!!!!!!!!

Also, that's 5! T206 Planks up for auction within the next month (Heritage has one also)

:eek:
Steve

bcbgcbrcb
04-01-2010, 07:28 PM
Bill:

I'm sure that they will if you pay the reholdering fee.............

barrysloate
04-01-2010, 07:29 PM
There are A LOT of T206's in this auction. You would think something might fall through the cracks but I doubt it.

paul
04-01-2010, 07:30 PM
Hey, I was looking for an original Creighton photo and the Merkle ball. Glad I could find them both in one place.

LEIDEMEG
04-01-2010, 07:45 PM
I have seen and owned a few T206 miscuts in my day... but that one takes the cake! What a strange card.

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=13378

e107collector
04-01-2010, 07:59 PM
The PSA authentic Plank, with the Sweet Caporal 150 back is one of the nicest Plank's I have ever seen.

It never fails, whenever a nice looking T204 Plank or Mordecai Brown come up for auction, they are always part of the whole set, which I won't be able to afford.

Tony

vintagechris
04-01-2010, 08:04 PM
Goodwin gives out free catalogs as far as I know... now, Hunt and Heritage do indeed charge for theirs, which I can't say I understand; the one time I got Heritage to ship me a comped catalog, I bought a $6k card that I didn't see when browsing their web site and only saw in the catalog.

I get a free catalog from Hunts every month.

JP
04-01-2010, 08:05 PM
The PSA authentic Plank, with the Sweet Caporal 150 back is one of the nicest Plank's I have ever seen.

That Plank is mine....I didn't plan on flipping it so quickly, but I can't resist Rob Lifson's charm. Our arrangement is too good to pass up!

Rich Klein
04-01-2010, 08:09 PM
Goodwin gives out free catalogs as far as I know... now, Hunt and Heritage do indeed charge for theirs, which I can't say I understand; the one time I got Heritage to ship me a comped catalog, I bought a $6k card that I didn't see when browsing their web site and only saw in the catalog.

Matt; I KNOW Bill for many many years; we have a lot of mutual friends; and for whatever reason I've never been on his mailing list. And yet; he's one of the nicest people in person I've ever met in the hobby. Couple of years ago; I ended up setting up at the National next to him; and because of the very short notice; he locked up all the "valuable cards" I had at the table each night. And made sure everytning was perfect. Nice man; just can't get the freakin catalogs :)

Rich

Edited to say -- Bill PM'd me this morning and promised I would be receiving all his catalogs in the future :)

Pup6913
04-01-2010, 08:15 PM
I have seen and owned a few T206 miscuts in my day... but that one takes the cake! What a strange card.

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=13378

The best part about the card is it has no name or other part of a card on it. Could be a very neat single.

mrvster
04-01-2010, 08:29 PM
Whoever wins that lot with the young miscut, i want it!!

please email me!!!

George/Andrew

This auction is awesome!!!!!!!!

Johnny

slidekellyslide
04-01-2010, 09:57 PM
I have seen and owned a few T206 miscuts in my day... but that one takes the cake! What a strange card.

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=13378

Wow...they should have listed that as a single lot.

bcornell
04-01-2010, 10:34 PM
Too bad about Walter's tobacco bath:

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13232_1.jpg

Fred
04-02-2010, 12:28 AM
Drool..... they don't have a smiley face icon for that one yet...

Pup6913
04-02-2010, 05:34 AM
Too bad about Walter's tobacco bath



can you soak a Ramly and remove those tobacco stains???

Jewish-collector
04-02-2010, 06:01 AM
This auction separates the men from the boys. :eek:

GrayGhost
04-02-2010, 07:14 AM
Thats for sure. For those who have the resources go to it. Im anxious just to keep an eye on some things. Certainly, nobody can touch the quality of this auction, and Id expect more records to be set with prices.

bijoem
04-02-2010, 07:23 AM
Bittersweet day for me. I can't have everything or even most everything I want. And I've already received my first outbid notice.


that was me.

its on!

Bill Stone
04-02-2010, 07:25 AM
I have noticed that the only time I ever buy a lottery ticket is when there is a REA auction going on-------:rolleyes:

Kotton King
04-02-2010, 07:33 AM
I have noticed that the only time I ever buy a lottery ticket is when there is a REA auction going on-------:rolleyes:

haha.....me too!

calvindog
04-02-2010, 08:10 AM
that was me.

its on!

Wait, it was my bid on your consignment! :)

majordanby
04-02-2010, 11:58 AM
woke up this morning...i was outbid on all the lots i bid on last night. yay

JP
04-02-2010, 12:48 PM
woke up this morning...i was outbid on all the lots i bid on last night. yay

Sorry, just had to have them!

I was outbid on about 20-30 lots last night and then returned the favor this morning.

e107collector
04-02-2010, 02:22 PM
Someone just bid on the Old Judge California League Doyle card. Anyone want to venture a guess at the ending price? I'll say $260K.

Tony

T206Collector
04-02-2010, 02:27 PM
...why do you bid on auctions at anytime earlier than absolutely required?

The only people that makes happy are the auction company and the seller. It is just giving money away. Of course a $100 placeholder bid in an auction for an item that is expected to sell for $100,000 I understand. But otherwise, it's just bidding up the item unnecessarily in my opinion.

autograf
04-02-2010, 02:33 PM
I'm thinking about 160-170K on the OJ California...............

barrysloate
04-02-2010, 03:21 PM
People are bidding early to get their qualifying bids in. The sooner you do it, the less risk involved.

And I'm with Tom. I'd say 160-170K seems about right...and I'll predict exactly two people will place bids on it, no more, no less.:)

jerseygary
04-02-2010, 04:01 PM
I wrote to REA to correct a description error in their lot 1008 (Josh Gibson and other negro league autograph book) and not only was it promptly corrected but Mr. L took the time to write back personally!

___________________________
My Baseball Card Project:
www.infinitecardset.blogspot.com

Rob D.
04-02-2010, 05:00 PM
I have noticed that the only time I ever buy a lottery ticket is when there is a REA auction going on-------:rolleyes:

This year's auction ends on the same day as the Kentucky Derby.

Hit the Pick 6 in the afternoon, go on a shopping spree that night.

e107collector
04-02-2010, 05:13 PM
I see posted on their website, that it says "We are currently accepting consignments for our next auction."

I wonder if they are planning on having 2 auctions this year? I remember this was discussed after last years auction.

I would be in heaven with 2 REA auctions each year!!

Tony

T206Collector
04-02-2010, 05:29 PM
I get people bidding for that reason, but it seems like people are actually engaged in meaningless bidding wars on April 2.

Steve D
04-02-2010, 05:48 PM
Deleted.....wrong thread.


Steve

JP
04-02-2010, 05:56 PM
I'd be interested in partnering on the T210 lot #160. I'm looking for the Series 3 San Antonio cards of Kipp, Leidy, Slaven and Stinson.


Steve

Steve, try this thread instead http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=122318

The SECOND post in that thread happens to concern your lot.

ChiefBenderForever
04-02-2010, 06:03 PM
I get people bidding for that reason, but it seems like people are actually engaged in meaningless bidding wars on April 2.

With the large amount of increments inbetween bids it makes sense to bid your max and let it ride. Once you get past 2000.00 bids are 500.00 gaps and then 1000.00 and so on, so if you get to your max and get outbid you are out and nothing left to worry about and it's someone else problem.

Steve D
04-02-2010, 06:03 PM
Shoot, thanks JP!

I thought this was that thread! :confused::o


Steve

HercDriver
04-02-2010, 06:18 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but I find the Autobid annoying in that I can't place the bid I want if I'm "out of sequence" with the current bid. For instance, let's say the current bid is $2500. If I want to bid $3000 for a lot, I will hit "bid now" which allows me to bid $2750. If I want to use autobid, my next choice is $3250, which doesn't allow me to place a $3000 bid. It assumes somebody else will bid $3000 and leaves me no way to place that bid. Am I missing something, or has anybody else seen that as well?

Cheers,
Geno

barrysloate
04-02-2010, 06:23 PM
You can only leave ceiling bids in alternate increments. This is a question I used to be asked time and again in my auctions. If you place the $2750 with a ceiling of $3250, your high bid will kick in only if somebody bids $3000. But if you bid $2750 with a ceiling of $3000, you've just taken two consecutive increments. At what level will somebody else be able to bid? He can't top your $2750 bid because you would be holding the next bid too. He would have to go straight to $3250. So you might as well have just bid the $3000. That may or be not be clear.

HercDriver
04-02-2010, 06:28 PM
Barry --

That's the problem - I can't bid $3000 unless I wait until somebody bids $2750. Maybe I can and I haven't figured out how. But in any case, what difference would it make if I took up two increments? To the seller and auctioneer, it's the same cash. To the bidders, it's first guy at that level wins. I think the alternate increment rule hurts only the bidder looking to spend a given amount (like the amount my wife allowed me)...

Cheers,
Geno

barrysloate
04-02-2010, 06:32 PM
Can't you just go straight to $3000? Are you saying the software doesn't allow it? I see you are saying that. Maybe you could call them and ask them to manually place it for you.

HercDriver
04-02-2010, 06:40 PM
At least from what I can see, that's the case...you can't take up consecutive increments with the software by going directly to a certain level. Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but as far as I can tell, you can't do it. For instance, I wanted to place a $3000 bid on a lot and am currently the high bidder at $2250. I can only up my bid to $2750 or $3250 using the system they have.

Cheers,
Geno

barrysloate
04-02-2010, 06:47 PM
Maybe we're both missing something.:confused:

rebelsart
04-02-2010, 07:12 PM
My guess is that the N172 Doyle, S.F. lot is done with 1 bid at $100k.

bijoem
04-02-2010, 07:49 PM
Wait, it was my bid on your consignment! :)

I'm up to 17 lots with bids.
Once I get the catalog and peruse it - I am sure that number will climb.

I am already losing 11 out of the 17.

There is one lot I want bad.

My problem is.... I fall asleep on 'game night'.

Rickyy
04-02-2010, 10:16 PM
I want that one, that one AND that one!

Bosox Blair
04-03-2010, 01:06 AM
I get people bidding for that reason, but it seems like people are actually engaged in meaningless bidding wars on April 2.

I view it as a "blocking" strategy. Every lot will be won or lost in overtime. The only people who can bid on a given lot in overtime are those who bid on that lot in regular time. Each lot is started many increments below the range where it will eventuallly sell (let's say 15 increments on average). If I bid once in regular time, I'm up against possibly 14 other guys in overtime. However, if 7 of those 15 bids in regular time were mine, then I just cut the number of final competitors on the lot in half.

Cheers,
Blair

barrysloate
04-03-2010, 05:30 AM
You may be able to cut your list of competitors in half, but there's one problem with that strategy.

The seven guys you knocked out were probably tire kickers looking for a good deal. The seven guys who are left are the whales who will go really high on the lot. So you have accomplished nothing.

If you bid often enough to knock out thirteen bidders, and only one is left, but that one bidder has all the money in the world and won't let that lot go to anybody else, you've still accomplished nothing.

It's generally a strategy that doesn't work. Whoever are left are the guys who are going to make your life miserable. The ones you cut out are irrelevant.

Bridwell
04-03-2010, 09:14 AM
Hi Blair and Barry,

I think the 'blocking strategy' Blair mentioned has some merit.

Barry is correct when he says that a 'whale' can overbid anybody in overtime, making the strategy irrelevant. This also holds true of a desperate collector trying to complete a set.

However, many lots in auctions sell to regular collectors, since the whales may already have that card. When that happens, I'd rather compete against only 3-4 other regular collectors in overtime, instead of 10-12 others. The hype of overtime tends to result in overbidding and that's lessened with fewer players. If 2 bidders are using the 'blocking strategy' on the same lot, then there might be only 2 bidders competing in overtime

Ron R

barrysloate
04-03-2010, 09:20 AM
The likelihood is you will knock out the bidders who were going to drop out early on their own. Many people bid just to have a bookmark for the overtime portion. I think anyone really serious about a lot will still be in no matter how many times a single person keeps bidding.

My experience as an auctioneer was that the people who continually bid throughout an auction had a poor record of winning lots. In the great majority of situations it was somebody else who won them.

Bosox Blair
04-03-2010, 12:11 PM
Hi Barry,

While I certainly can't challenge your experience as an auctioneer, I firmly believe it is valuable to limit the number of competitors against you in overtime. I've seen/experienced this many times - the sand starts to shift in overtime. As people get pushed beyond their limits on their initial goal lots, they feel they have "freed up" bidding cash, and they turn to other lots. I know for a fact this happened to me last REA. I had the high bid on a lot through the end of the auction and through 8+ hours of O/T. The person who won the lot told me they came back to my lot to bid after somone topped them and things got too rich on a more expensive lot they were chasing.

With REA, you can only turn to what you bid on in regular time. So keeping people off your lot in regular time has some value. Of course you can't eliminate competition, but you can reduce competitors.

Yes, I know there are "whales", but in an auction like REA, I believe these guys have quite a few lots to consider. I agree that if one of these guys is bound and determined to have the card you want, then you are in some trouble. But in any other case, I'd like fewer bidders to have the option of turning their focus to a lot I'm interested in during overtime.

Cheers,
Blair

CW
04-03-2010, 12:11 PM
Although I could never hope to bid & compete for this card, the most intriguing card
in this auction is the newly discovered Just So Buck Ewing. It's got a great story behind
it, and it should be interesting to see the closing price.

Surprised nobody has mentioned it in this thread, although there might be a reason
for that.

Bosox Blair
04-03-2010, 12:14 PM
Hi Blair and Barry,

I think the 'blocking strategy' Blair mentioned has some merit.

Barry is correct when he says that a 'whale' can overbid anybody in overtime, making the strategy irrelevant. This also holds true of a desperate collector trying to complete a set.

However, many lots in auctions sell to regular collectors, since the whales may already have that card. When that happens, I'd rather compete against only 3-4 other regular collectors in overtime, instead of 10-12 others. The hype of overtime tends to result in overbidding and that's lessened with fewer players. If 2 bidders are using the 'blocking strategy' on the same lot, then there might be only 2 bidders competing in overtime

Ron R

Hi Ron,

Yes - we are on the same page on this!

Cheers,
Blair

barrysloate
04-03-2010, 12:35 PM
Blair- anything is possible, and in no way does it hurt to knock bidders out. It never hurts. But I'm still not convinced it helps. If you knock thirteen bidders out and the only bidder left is Bill Gates, I think you still lose. But I agree that there is a lot of shifting around in the wee hours of the morning and only somebody who qualified will be able to jump back to your lot. However, I still think you've only eliminated the bottom feeders and not the real competition. I suppose there is no definitive answer to this.

Bosox Blair
04-03-2010, 12:56 PM
I suppose there is no definitive answer to this.

Hi Barry,

For sure - and I'm not purporting to have any kind of study to support my idea. It is just something I feel intuitively (ie. that I'd rather enter an auction against 7 qualified bidders than against 15). But I definitely see your points...the number of bidders is not as important as: who they are, what finances they have, and what their goals/motivations are in the auction.

Ultimately, I'm aware that two bidders makes an auction, and two motivated bidders can create a record price. But somehow I still feel better with 2 bidders than with 15.

Cheers,
Blair

barrysloate
04-03-2010, 01:06 PM
Blair- I'm sure you've experienced this too, but I can't tell you how many times I've been the underbidder on a lot and said to myself, If it just wasn't for that one guy, I could have won that lot at such a good price. And that's the one bidder I'm suggesting you haven't knocked out. Obviously, whether you finish second or fifth, the end result is the same. Maybe we should do a study of bidding patterns and behavior.;)

Bosox Blair
04-03-2010, 01:09 PM
Maybe we should do a study of bidding patterns and behavior.;)


Hi Barry,

I might be a strange guy (...well, I am :D) but I would really find that interesting.

All the best,
Blair

barrysloate
04-03-2010, 01:11 PM
I can tell you from my years of doing auctions that watching people's bidding behavior is fascinating indeed! There are many eccentric personalities out there.

jmk59
04-03-2010, 01:12 PM
I just got an email notifying me that bidding is open. Now that I've been outbid many times over on all but three things. :)

J

JP
04-03-2010, 01:34 PM
No harm in sharing my bidding strategy. I look at all the lots I want, figure a final price I'm good with, subtract 17.5% BP, then subtract 20% more and then bid that price on all the lots I want...so around 70% of what I'm ok with the final price being. Then I wait and once I'm outbid on most of them, on the last day I narrow down my lots by a half and rebid on the ones I'm willing to go the extra mile with and then go to sleep that night -- the night that it closes. I never want to really OVERPAY so I often miss out on most lots. But at times my system REALLY works. The Plank I won was my 70% bid, and it never got outbid again. Other times, I end up missing out on lots with prices that in retrospect seem like incredible deals.

calvindog
04-03-2010, 02:06 PM
My strategy: I buy whatever I want at whatever I feel like paying for it and then I go back to work the next day and make more money.