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martin neal
03-26-2010, 05:17 PM
Is this card real? I just picked it up on Ebay last night. I know it is the ultimate beater but T206 scraps are right up my alley. Any thoughts? Sorry for the small scan.

cfc1909
03-26-2010, 05:59 PM
it is real and the back is Sweet Caporal 350-460 factory 30

E93
03-26-2010, 06:23 PM
I have seen 20+ of those (all different) and used to own a Johnson (pitching). They are real. My guess is that all the examples circulating in the hobby all came off the same scrap sheet. Others may have more information or more to say. They are very cool! Nice pick-up.
JimB

asoriano
03-26-2010, 06:25 PM
Hi Martin,

I think you did quite well on that Matty scrap.

Nice pick-up.

ethicsprof
03-26-2010, 10:18 PM
congrats Martin.
i have seen 10 or fewer in my time and you are one lucky fellow.

best,
barry

martin neal
03-27-2010, 02:49 AM
Thanks guys,

I won't be sure its real until I get it in the mail, although I can't imagine someone going to all the effort to manufacture one and then mess it up so much. The damage evident on this card also reminds me of damage I have seen done by other scammers.

Bridwell
03-28-2010, 06:25 PM
This one seems similar to yours, Martin. I bought these 2 Gabby Street cards a few years ago. The one with the missing colors is the Sweet Caporal, and appears to be hand cut. Would be interested in comments, and knowing if other similar cards are out there.

Ron R

Vintagecatcher
03-28-2010, 07:38 PM
Years ago I traded away a similar Gabby Street T206 for my Gibson D322 Tip Top Bread card. I don't remember it having a CYCLE back, so I suspect that multiple "two color" printer's scrap must exist for this card.


Patrick

cfc1909
03-28-2010, 08:10 PM
the cards are flipped in the scan the scrap has the Sweet caporal back

mrvster
03-28-2010, 08:24 PM
Martin,

If it's real, nice pick up!! i missed this on ebay, could you send me the link??

congrats if it is

:)

peace

Johnny

martin neal
03-29-2010, 05:32 AM
Hi Johnny,

Here's the link...170460958401. Not sure how to do the shortcut to the Ebay link. Anyway, if it's real, I think it was skinned. I guess all of these were Sweet Caporal?

I know I have seen another Mathewson in the past. Couldn't find it in the archives though. Anyone remember it? I would love to see others if anyone would like to post them.

Martin

cfc1909
03-29-2010, 09:21 AM
16248


I don't think this group had the Matty but this will give you an idea of what they look like. I have seen around a dozen or so.

martin neal
03-29-2010, 11:06 AM
Sweet....Dude

wonkaticket
03-29-2010, 11:43 AM
http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/small/Item_159_1.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/small/item_3750.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/small/Item_8296_1.jpg

A few more from the hard drive of lost opportunities..

I'm sure this is known by most...

Yes all of these are handcut and will feature a Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory No.30 2nd DIST. N.Y. back and were not issued.

Most all of the factory issued cards (full color) that were issued were issued with the following backs.

Factory No.25 2nd DIST. VA.
Factory No.42 4th DIST. N.C.
Factory No.42 4th DIST. N.C. OP

It's the OP or "scroll" cards that hide the Factory No.30 2nd DIST. N.Y. found on these scraps or proofs.

Sometimes cards can be found like the below where both factory's are seen.

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/scan0009.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/33.jpg

cfc1909
03-29-2010, 11:56 AM
I knew that Matty was somewhere

cfc1909
03-29-2010, 12:02 PM
I want the Seymour-who has the Seymour?

danmckee
03-29-2010, 02:05 PM
I have about 30 of these, they are very cool.

cfc1909
03-29-2010, 03:26 PM
I think you might want to put a zero behind that number...:D

mrvster
03-29-2010, 04:37 PM
Martin,


Thanks for the link....u might have the "real deal"...you love these errors like me!i hope it is ...you'll be able to tell when you get it...some scraps appear "thin"just the nature of some of them..

Jim, Dan, Jon- i knew you would have scans!!Dan , prob have 200 like Jim said!!LOL

i only have one yellow/brown:(

martin neal
03-29-2010, 05:18 PM
Man, this one's beat all to hell. You can barely make out an impression of the Sweet Caporal back. It's pretty thin so I guess it's been skinned. Will SGC authenticate something this beat up? I think this one is a candidate for some protection.

JeremyW
03-29-2010, 05:30 PM
Yello Brown Red. Looks like a little red ink made it to his lips also. Cool card. Good luck with the protection/encapsulation.

cfc1909
03-29-2010, 05:37 PM
penny sleeve & card saver