Show your Pre War Pins & Buttons-any sport

[olsport]

I just got a picture of my laminated, but unused 1890-1900? sheet of 3 second baseman pins. Please post pics of any pre war pins or buttons from any sport. Thanks!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/foospaul/Sports%20Memorabilia/1890sUncutBaseballButtonSheet.jpg

[sayhey24]

I've shown some of these before, but here goes:

[sayhey24]

A few more:

[sayhey24]

Some displays:

[dwr11]

Awesome collection sayhey24! Thanks for sharing. I noticed in one of the photos you had a couple of 1969 player buttons (the ones that are red and white with stars). Do you have any Minnesota Twins players from this series? If so, I would love to see them.

[Rob D.]

 

[vwtdi]

Has anyone seen one of these?
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/vwtdi55/cobb_pin1.jpghttp://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/vwtdi55/cobb_pin2.jpg

[sayhey24]

dwr11 -- I don't have any of those Twins pins, although I'm a big Tony Oliva fan an would like to have his.

Keith -- that Cobb looks kind of like an image from a P2 pin.

A couple more photos:

[Dave4Reds]

sayhey24 - great collection. let me know if you ever want to get rid of the Noodles Hahn pin.:)

[calvindog]

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3900143335/" title="1911 Diamond Gum Pins PE2 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2532/3900143335_1c46b4e24c_o.jpg" width="560" height="752" alt="1911 Diamond Gum Pins PE2" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/4011645598/" title="1924 Mrs. Sherlock's Bread PD3 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2565/4011645598_f08a572c8e_o.jpg" width="560" height="753" alt="1924 Mrs. Sherlock's Bread PD3" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3900947488/" title="1911 Diamond Gum Pins PE2 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2630/3900947488_bd23a1bcf9_o.jpg" width="560" height="739" alt="1911 Diamond Gum Pins PE2" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/4343498977/" title="1904 Stenzel's Rooter Button by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4343498977_376138489e_o.jpg" width="1120" height="739" alt="1904 Stenzel's Rooter Button" /></a>

[Pup6913]

A nice Drum pin

[the-illini]

Cameo Pepsin Buck Ewing - graded a PSA 6...

[tlwise12]

My contribution:

[Boomer]

SayHey
Will not show my pins after seeing yours. Very Nice!

[batsballsbases]

Sayhey24 you have some very nice items. Love looking at the cameo pepsins. Here are a few as time permits I will post more.

[Scott Garner]

Al,
I love the Walter Johnson 1924 button. I've never seen that before. Very nice!!

[abroome]

This 1913 Univ. of Chattanooga once had a ribbon attached. I have seen this original photo which resides in the UTC library now, I think.

http://www.andybroome.com/1913utc.jpg

[smokelessjoe]

Posted these before... Picked them all up in one lot. Its hard to scan these and some of them certainly look better in person.

[smokelessjoe]

More....

[smokelessjoe]

Last one... Wish these were in better condition!

[batsballsbases]

Hi Scott,
Yes a very rare pin. Actually I was the proud owner of 2 of those pins and just finished a rather big trade for one.

[batsballsbases]

Both side by side

[sayhey24]

So many cool pins -- I too love the Johnson Pennant Winners.
Boomer, there's no such thing as a bad baseball pinback, so please post away.

Greg

[batsballsbases]

Greg,
I also have that Fred Hoey Day pin. Funny it has the same tassle on it.:eek:
Here is a rare Wagner pin.

[Tigerden]

Sorry, the 1945 World Series pin is not pre-war, but still a great pin.

[ctownboy]

Here are the few pins I own.

[bcbgcbrcb]

There aren't too many collectibles picturing this guy.........

[mjkm90]

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q304/mjkm90/IMG_1742.jpg

[olsport]

Already posted this in it's own thread, but here it is again.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/foospaul/Sports%20Memorabilia/TyCobbCelluloidWatchFob.jpg

[Scott Garner]

Wow guys, these posts on vintage buttons have been absolutely stunning. Congrats on all of your amazing collections!!

[rc4157]

OK - Dave4Reds, I'm seriously jealous of your pin collection. Nice!
Here are my 2.
RC
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w30/rc4157/Other%20Vintage/BobBescher-PinSweetCaporal.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w30/rc4157/Other%20Vintage/ArtFromme-PinSweetCaporal.jpg

[Scott Garner]

So many cool pins -- I too love the Johnson Pennant Winners.
Boomer, there's no such thing as a bad baseball pinback, so please post away.

Greg

Greg,
Approximately what year is the nice Feller button from? I was guessing around 1940...

[stone193]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/stone193/BRPin.jpg?t=1266637750

[Dave4Reds]

Thanks rc4157, but it's no match to a lot of the collections I've seen on here. The big difference is I just focus on the Reds.

Do these pins count as pre-war? They're from before we entered the war...

[cincicards]

14631
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14632

[Dave4Reds]

here's a few more...

[perezfan]

Gotta love those non-sanctioned logos! That Cubs is really cool (as are the Pirates and A's) Great posts!

[sayhey24]

Scott -- Yes, I think the Bob Feller pin is 40s vintage.

Al -- Here is an original sheet of what I guess would be called printer's proofs for pins -- on there are several baseball pins including one with the same photo as your 1924 Walter Johnson, but I think made for a different version with a facsimile autograph and no pennant winners graphics.

Greg

[sayhey24]

Another pin display.

[batsballsbases]

Greg,
That printers proof paper looks intresting. I have the smaller johnson pin and put them here side by side. The large johnson has no back paper and from the few that I know are out there the others dont either. My second one had no paper also. I do know of one that came with a very nice ribbon also . The smaller Johnson has a back paper and says James Spencer & Company Badges Buttons. 22 N. sixth st Philadelphia. This might help you on the printers proof paper. Does it say who was the maker of any of the pins anywhere on the paper? Nice intresting item thanks for sharing!!!

[sayhey24]

Al,

No indication on paper of the name of the company, but many of the pinbacks have a Baltimore theme, including quite a few pins for Baltimore Mayor William Broening.

Greg

[batsballsbases]

Posting these for a good friend of mine.:eek: Pin collecting at its best!

[perezfan]

Wow.... speechless after seeing those. Looks like your friend is a condition freak as well. I don't see any rust, foxing, frayed ribbons, etc.

Makes me wish that I pursued Pinbacks harder, back in the day! That 1934 Tigers Pin with the Figural Tiger is simply awesome. Is that a one-of-a-kind, or do those actually turn up every now and then? Would love to see some close-ups if at all possible.

Thanks, Al, for posting that amazing collection!

[batsballsbases]

Hi Mark,
Yes the collection is in great shape! He is an old time collector. Here are a few close ups! Al

[GrayGhost]

looking at those pins reminds me of why this is still the greatest hobby in the world.

[sayhey24]

Great stuff Al -- any chance of seeing a closup of the bottom right corner of the first display case you showed -- I can't tell what the second pin in from the bottom right is (just to the left and below the Connie Mack pin with ribbon) -- it's a portrait of someone.

The displays themselves are very impressive -- I have my pins spread out all over my baseball room -- i think there's something a little more stunning when you group them all together like that.

I've always wondered why pins aren't more popular -- take the Walter Johnson pins that Al showed before, or the amazing pins we've seen in a few photos now of Maranville and Hornsby.
How many T206 Johnson cards exist compared to those Johnson pins (there must be thousands more cards). You could make the same comparison between the Maranville Cracker Jack card and those two pinbacks, and Hornsby Goudey compared to his pinbacks. Plus the pins just look really cool!

Greg

[perezfan]

Memorabilia is still so under-rated when compared to cards. There was a thread on the other (card) side of the board, in which a few people were actually comparing the rarity and desirability of a Ty Cobb Game-used Bat to his T206 Card. They also commented that a Cobb game-used bat carries little to no historical significance. I guess they think a small cardboard picture of Cobb is more significant than a Bat that he actually wielded.

I know this is way off-topic, but the number of Cobb T206 cards outnumbers his game-used bats by at least 100 - 1. Same can be said for so many other facets of baseball memorabilia, including these magnificent Pins. Thanks for posting the close-ups... salivating even more now!

[CobbvLajoie1910]

My VERY meager contribution.

To add:

Al, your friends collection of P2s, et. al. might be my favorite display piece I have seen on Net54 in a LOOOOONG while.

Nothing better than a good pinback thread!

Best,

[batsballsbases]

Thanks Guys yes its a very impressive collection. Greg the pin is a boston celtics junior booster pin. I cant read the name (gets to distorted when I blow it up.) But I think its Bob Cousey. I will try and get my friend to send me some more closeups. But I can tell you that Its a very strong condition collection. He was very happy that I put the pics up for all to see.

[batsballsbases]

I wanted to post these since I really never get a chance to show them and I figured this is a good spot for them. 3 Pocket mirrors. The Frank Baker being the most recent addition . Came out of an estate in Reading Pa. Where it survived almost un touched for 100 years. Irony is it was made by the keystone badge co. Reading Pa. It is the nicest one I had ever seen.

[mjkm90]

This has been one of my favorite posts in some time. While I have some pinbacks, I agree with Mark. I wish I had gotten into them a loooong time ago. They have an appeal that is difficult to describe. They are simply neet collectibles. I also agree that the scarcity of many examples is understated.

Does anyone know who purchased Rob Lifson's collection?

[batsballsbases]

Mike Yes I do.

[bigtrain]

Scott and Greg,
I don't have the pin or even a positive print, but about 10 years ago, I picked up this glass negative used to make the Johnson pin. Paid about a tenth of what the pin would cost, I imagine. Had it framed but I remember that the paper label in the corner does refer to a Philadelphia firm.

Tom

[andypcl]

Wow, awesome buttons guys! I've been holding back because all of my pins are pictured as singles. But a few years back, I put a bunch on my floor and snapped this pic. It's framed and hanging in my garage so here's a picture of a picture which is why it's fuzzy.

Someday, I'm going to do another, much larger pic and add my newer pick-ups as well as mix in some other sports.

<a href="http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/?action=view&current=pins.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/pins.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[batsballsbases]

Andy,
Always beautiful stuff!:eek: We have got to do some trades one of these days!

[sayhey24]

Andy -- great idea about hanging the photo, and great collection.

Al -- no wonder I didn't recognize the pin I asked about -- it's basketball in a sea of baseball! And those pocket mirrors are terrific.

Here's one more photo I took -- again, my pins are pretty spread out.

Greg

[perezfan]

Of everything posted on this great thread, that Frank Baker Mirror has me drooling the most. That thing is insanely beautiful. I have been under-bidder on a few over the years, but have never seen one as gorgeous as that.

And Andy.... tremendous stuff as always. Maybe it's time that you, Al and I worked a 3 way trade! I have a nifty stash of high-end pennants that might interest you ;) The other great thing about these Pinbacks is that they don't require hundreds of linear feet of wall space. Probably the most "efficient" and space saving collectibles possible!

Thanks again to all for these incedible posts...

[abroome]

Greg,
I've never seen the Ozark Ike pin before. Very nice!

[batsballsbases]

Mark,
That Andy is one hard son of a gun to trade with;);) been trying to get that wards sporties Jimmy Wilson from him with no luck!:D Andy as always some beautiful items.
Greg nice pins a great collection. I want to post more but mine are in the single plastic boxes and takes alot of time . One day I will have to do the shadow boxes. Greg I notiiced that nice little centennial fob in the pin box. I also collect some centennial items and have that with the strap. I also have a very hard to find 1 1/4 inch pin. I will have to post it.

[batsballsbases]

Greg, Here is the Centennial Fob with the strap, The scorer, and a rare 1 1/4 inch pin.

[vintagesportflips]

Beautiful collections guys. Truly amazing stuff. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to get the shadowboxes that many of the shown pins were displayed in. I have a fairly large post war Philadelphia Eagles pin collectcion, that I once had displayed in Michaels shadowboxes, but they are pretty poorly made. I then moved them to Riker/butterfly cases and hung those on the wall, but they do not hang well given their coardboard/not completely rigid quality. Any suggestions?

[perezfan]

Keith...

Here's a solution that could potentially work. I don't have a good enough Pin Collection to show off, but this shows how they work for other knick knacks... These cases are sold at Michael's, but are of a higher quality than some of the other Shadowboxes. These are completely rigid (unlike the Riker cases) and have a hinged lid, which makes for easy access.

The lid also has a locking mechanism (see photo) Also, on the back are hangers for either vertical or horizontal viewing. These display cases work great for me.

They come in 3 - 4 different sizes, and either in black or brown. Michael's is almost always having a Half Price Sale on these, so you can get them relatively cheap. Hope this helps!

[andypcl]

Hello again.

Thanks for the feedback.

Mark, I'm always open to entertaining any potential trades - I really like the last one we did. I'll have to add that button to my next picture.

Hi Al, here's a picture that shows my dilemma regarding Jimmie Wilson. I think you're gonna finish this group before me! I wouldn't rule out trading it but that means surrendering any thoughts I have about finishing the set. Giving up is hard to do. Anyway, great buttons Al!!
<a href="http://s194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/?action=view&current=wards.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/wards.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[mjkm90]

Ok advanced collectors. I have a couple questions for you. Obviously, you have been at this for years and your collections began long before ebay.

1) Where in the world did the bulk of your collections come from?
2) When did pin values really take off?
3) Do you have a pinback holy grail?

[batsballsbases]

Andy I see the problem!:eek: Mike all very good questions!(1) For me it started about 30 years ago with 1 very large trade involving about 100 stadium pins and about 100 mixed pins (all very hard to find) Remember pins werenot that collectible back then , but I always loved them for some reason. The trade was for a 1966 topps football funny rings checklist and 300 dollars!:eek: I have been collecting them ever since. I also do like to trade but pin collectors were very few and far between.(2) Pin values really started taking off from the auction houses with the selling off of some very large collections in the late 90s . Roger Stecklers , Rob Lifsons, and Jim Copelands collections comes to mind. And also with the printing of Dr Paul Muchinskys book Baseball pinback buttons back in 2004. (3) as for holy grails I guess we will have to re define that statement and break it down to eras. Yes there are many holy grails I have owned and sold quite a few. Seeing in this post my Cameo Pepsin Buck Ewing and knowing a fellow board member now owns my Cameo Pepsin Cy Young. Those 2 would have to rank up there as an era Holy Grail. As for a modern era holy grail I guess I will just have to leave you with this scan as these would be 2 that rank right up there for me. I would love to hear from some of the other collectors out there.

[sayhey24]

Al -- thanks for sharing those centennial pieces -- so many incredible pins are being shown -- this is fun.

Here's one more display possibility -- just use a standard frame and take out the glass. That's the case with the large rectangular frame I show in post # 39. Just secure a piece of colored felt over the frame backing, place it back into the frame, and you're good to go. The only negative is that there's no glass protecting the pins.

Greg

[vintagesportflips]

Mark - Those are the same shadow boxes I was using, but they didn't last long for me. Most likely because I was taking them down often, and adding new pins, or rearranging pins. Probably if I would have just hung them and left them alone, they would have worked well.

Greg - I was actually going to ask about that frame. I coudn't tell if that one had glass or not. I think I am going to steal that idea - it looks great, and plus it is easy to add new pins without taking down the shadow box, etc.

thanks

[CobbvLajoie1910]

kjjavic.

....my display case (pictured) came from Pottery Barn (shopping with the wife, on one occasion...paid off).

They had many diff types of shadow boxes on clearance...and I purchased what they had knowing I had time to grow into them. Wood + Glass flip-top, back is padded (great for spring-pin) & has an easelback for display. I believe 20.00 apiece. I absolutely love them.

[ksfarmboy]

I have a few but this is still the favorite. The picture is pretty close to actual size.

[Scott Garner]

Clint,
I can see why you like that 1934 Cardinals Dizzy Dean pin. It's gorgeous!!

[68Hawk]

Love everyone else's pins, and am really attached to my own...

Motorcycle related:
15371

Australian Rules Footy Clubs:
15370

Assorted Sports:
15369

[LenPan]

Clint,
What a beauty! I've been collecting Cardinals pinbacks for a few decades and have not seen this one. WOW. Dr. Paul doesn't even have it.
Happy collecting!
Len