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jb217676
01-14-2010, 02:49 PM
My first post! I have a question about identifying 1933 Goudey sheet cut cards. I purchased a 1933 Goudey Herb Pennock card that is in great condition. In the auction, the seller said the card was cut from a sheet. This is an authentic card and not a reprint. It is also the same size as my graded 1933 Goudey cards, so I am pretty sure it is not a trimmed example of the card that was available in packs. I have heard about collectors owning uncut sheets of 1933 Goudey baseball cards, which is where this card most likely came from. Does anyone have any information about Goudey sheet cut cards? Is it worth it to send it to PSA for grading? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

cwazzy
01-14-2010, 03:05 PM
PSA won't grade sheet cuts if that's what they deem it to be. That being said, if it's the same size and the edges/corners look no different than a pack inserted card I would give it a try as it may be hard to tell. You may succeed.

jb217676
01-14-2010, 03:14 PM
My first post, and now my first reply! Thanks for the information. I am going to send it in anyways and see what happens.

cwazzy
01-14-2010, 03:27 PM
No problem. Welcome to the boards and good luck with the sub! Do you have a scan of the card in question?

jb217676
01-14-2010, 05:25 PM
Here are some scans of the card in question:

E93
01-14-2010, 07:21 PM
Welcome to the board. In my opinion, the cut looks "off" and I seriously doubt PSA would slab that card anything other than "authentic". The tilt is not even, edges look odd, and some of the cuts near the corners are suspicious. My guess is they will deem it trimmed. It is a nice looking card. Just offering my .02 on the possibility of getting a numerical grade.
JimB

iggyman
01-14-2010, 07:38 PM
In the early 1990's (seems so long ago...) I purchased a small lot of '1933 Goudey cards from an old-time dealer that came from a cut sheet. I kept some and sold the rest when I discovered eBay. Your card will grade, but only as authentic.

Lovely Day...

ullmandds
01-14-2010, 07:57 PM
i agree...that card will be deemed trimmed...nice card though.

drc
01-14-2010, 10:20 PM
I'm not attempting to make a universal rule, but I had some sheet cut 1948 Bowmans and they were obviously scissor cut from a sheet. No subtlty about them. For me, I'd trust a sheet cut label when the card is oversized, at least in areas. When a card is oversized, that answers a lot of questions.

A sheet cut card would grade "authentic," so in that respect its on par with trimmed. To me, the only way a sheet cut card gets a financial premium is if its way oversized, a scrap or proof. In other words, whether the Pennock is sheet cut or trimmed, I don't see the big difference.

Chesbro41
01-17-2010, 07:01 AM
Jeff please let us know what this card gets when you get it back from PSA. Since you were so kind to comment on the Pennock I had listed in the BST, I'd love to get the opportunity to give you my 2 cents on yours.