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darrend505
12-15-2009, 05:01 PM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/045.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/047.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/031.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/043.jpg

Real? I am leaning towards yes, but wanted some more opinions on them! Thanks!

Leon
12-15-2009, 08:07 PM
I moved this thread to the correct forum. It's not really a BST type of question. They look real to me. regards

wrapperguy
12-15-2009, 09:17 PM
My father and I have been collecting this set for years and those look real to me. No knowledge of any reprints either. Down to four cards (Grissom, Livengood, Weaver, and McKechnie) if any one has some lying around. If you collect the set, it is a bit of a challenge. Not too many show up any more.

FrankWakefield
12-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Have you illuminated them with a black light?

As they look in the scans, I'm uncertain as to authenticity. If you have them in hand, shine uv light on them in the dark, and let us know if they fluoresce.

darrend505
12-16-2009, 04:23 AM
I will ask my uncle if he has a black light. They are his cards and I have been trying to find out what I can about them. Rc4157 has given me a ton of useful information. I am hoping that they are the real deal! Will post on them again if he has a black light.

If they are real I would think that they would not flouresce, I think.

rc4157
12-16-2009, 08:53 AM
That's correct Darren on the use of the black light.

RC

darrend505
12-16-2009, 09:01 AM
Have not heard back from him yet on it. I am getting more excuted about these and really want them for myself!!!

Griffins
12-16-2009, 09:32 AM
They look real to me. I've been working on this set as well, much tougher than the Harry Hartman set the following year.
I"ll agree with Jeff, they don't come up very often. But when they do they don't seem to go for very much, it's a thinly traded set. As such I really doubt they've been reprinted.

darrend505
12-16-2009, 09:41 AM
He has 20 of the 27 cards total! I do not know which ones he is missing. What do these usually sell for? Thanks!

Chris Counts
12-16-2009, 11:09 AM
My understanding is that there are 32 different, which include two different Vandermeer poses ...

wrapperguy
12-16-2009, 02:10 PM
The 1938 issue, called W711-1, has 23 cards and the 1939 issue is an update of the 1938 and has 27 cards. As you might expect, there are some different players added in the 1939. The main difference comes on the back where a player's stats are added or his age changed or a team change is noted, among other things. The SCD guide explains it well. A bunch just sold a couple months ago and some went for a good buck (over $100) but most went for less. Based on the number of bids, I agree with Anthony in that it is thinly traded and doubt they have been reprinted.

darrend505
12-16-2009, 02:24 PM
I really need to pick up the SCD book. I will ask him to send me a list of the names and try to get a better idea on which year these are from.

Thanks for all the information so far!

barrysloate
12-16-2009, 02:44 PM
Darren- if you could correct the spelling of Cincinnati in your title you would make me a happy man. Thank you, it's just a fetish of mine.

barrysloate
12-16-2009, 02:50 PM
Beautiful! Thank you.:)

Rob D.
12-16-2009, 04:25 PM
Hi, my name is Barry, and I'm a closet copy editor.

Hi, Barry!

FrankWakefield
12-16-2009, 04:25 PM
what, precisely, would be the fetish?

barrysloate
12-16-2009, 04:33 PM
I'm obsessed with correcting the spelling errors on the board...if Leon made me a moderator, I could sit down every night and edit all the posts that had misspelled words. It would be my personal heaven.

Griffins
12-16-2009, 07:28 PM
I"d like to nominate Barry for co- Mod in charge of all things spelling and Seinfeld related, and hope that our benevolent dictator, Mr. Luckey, will look upon this nomination favorably. (Or favourably, if Barry has any English blood in him)

timn1
12-16-2009, 11:41 PM
I've collected these sets for many years and have never heard of any reprints. They go for anywhere from $5 on up to $25 or more for commons, depending on who happens to see the offering and which ones they need. As others have said, they are not widely collected but are very scarce. The Livengood is pretty close to impossible. Many of the 1938 varieties are also quite tough.

darrend505
12-16-2009, 11:54 PM
What is the difference between the 1938 and the 1939? Is it just based on the checklist?

darrend505
12-26-2009, 08:39 PM
1938-1939 Cincinatti Reds Team Issue W571

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/Firstbatchfrints0001.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/back0001.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/front30001.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/backgroup20001.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/frintgroup30001.jpg
[img]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/dadebruhl/back30001.jpg

rc4157
12-26-2009, 08:49 PM
Great looking cards Darren, looks like a mouse may have gotten to Vander Meer's portrait card.

RC

darrend505
12-26-2009, 08:52 PM
Yeah, that is definitely the worst in the bunch.I just need to figure out values for these cards. Some of them might be going to PSA to get graded as I think they could get a bit more. I am selling them for my Uncle and want to get the best price I can for him.

Kawika
02-03-2010, 04:00 AM
I bought four of Darren's cards off the BST and wish to report that it was a most satisfactory purchase. Our communications were cordial and the cards arrived in quick time, each in a penny sleeve and top loader. Further to the point, the cards looked good, passed the taste test, were identical in size etc compared to another type card I already had and stayed dark under a black light. Thanks for the sale, Darren.
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/holygrailcards/large/1939%20Cinci%20Reds.jpg

Chris Counts
02-03-2010, 07:17 AM
Those are great looking cards, David. The W711-1 set is one of my all-time favorites. Also, you've proven my theory that cards always look better when they're scanned against a black background. It's so much easier to see what the corners and edges look like. I wish more sellers would do the same ...

rc4157
02-03-2010, 09:05 PM
I agree David, Darren was great to work and communicate with. I picked up quite a few of his Reds cards, haven't scanned as yet, but one was the infamous Vander Meer that looked like it had two bites taken out of it, but like I told Darren, "It fills a "hole" in my collection.

RC

darrend505
02-09-2010, 07:59 PM
Gentleman, I am very glad that your enjoying the cards that you purchased! David they do look much better scanned in front of a black background! I want to thank you again for your purchases! I hope that we may be able to do buisness again in the future!

Darren