Lelands.com Auction Closes Tomorrow 9pm

[joshleland]

Hey
Just a heads up to remind you that our big auction is closing tomorrow night
Initial bids must be in by 9pm and it should go fairly late (lets hope not too late!)
There is some pretty great stuff in there and some pretty great deals too
Good luck in the auction and thanks for listening
Sincerely
Josh Evans
Chairman
Lelands.com

Go to www.lelands.com to bid

[bmarlowe1]

The photo below left (lot 849) - labeled as Miller Huggins (current bid is $270) is actually Al Bridwell. The exact photo was used in the 1906 Spalding Guide's 1905 Cin. team headshot composite where it was correctly labeled as Bridwell, below center. Also note the similarity to Bridwell's Colgan chip, below right. :)

[bmarlowe1]

Item 988 is also interesting. Unidentified are Hap Felsch (far right) and defense atty William Fallon, just left of Felsch.

Item 986 labeled Felsch and Riseberg - Riseberg is really Cicotte.

[calvindog]

http://www.lelands.com/Auction.aspx/AuctionDetailed/52664/November-2009-Catalog/Sports/New-York-Yankees/Lot369~The-Yankee-Stadium-Drain-Pipe-Cover-That-Destroyed-Mickey-Mantle%E2%80%99s-Career/page1

This is my favorite lot. On so many levels. Poor taste combined with a misleading description -- it's got everything!

[GoldenAge50s]

WOW!! $3500 & counting for a drain cover! Wish I had the other 5 so I could say I have a better chance of it being the right one!

I agree Jeff--very ambiguous listing at best!

[Peter_Spaeth]

http://www.lelands.com/Auction.aspx/AuctionDetailed/52664/November-2009-Catalog/Sports/New-York-Yankees/Lot369~The-Yankee-Stadium-Drain-Pipe-Cover-That-Destroyed-Mickey-Mantle%E2%80%99s-Career/page1

This is my favorite lot. On so many levels. Poor taste combined with a misleading description -- it's got everything!

Jeff, good luck, hope you win it.

[bmarlowe1]

Hey Peter - you didn't say "teflon" yet :D

[botn]

http://www.lelands.com/Auction.aspx/AuctionDetailed/52664/November-2009-Catalog/Sports/New-York-Yankees/Lot369~The-Yankee-Stadium-Drain-Pipe-Cover-That-Destroyed-Mickey-Mantle%E2%80%99s-Career/page1

This is my favorite lot. On so many levels. Poor taste combined with a misleading description -- it's got everything!

Yeah but it is just so difficult to top his offering in 2005 of debris from the plane crash which took Roberto Clemente's life.

[calvindog]

Greg, that's exactly what I thought of when I read the description of the drain cover. Such glee in the description! Ahhh...money!

[Peter_Spaeth]

What's next I wonder? The baseball that killed Ray Chapman? The one that struck Herb Score, or Tony Conigliaro? Juan Marichal's bat? Ray Fosse's blood-splattered uniform?

[calvindog]

No, the baseball that may have killed Ray Chapman, the one that may have struck Herb Score, or Tony Conigliaro, the bat that may have been Juan Marichal's and possibly Ray Fosse's uniform.

[calvindog]

http://www.lelands.com/Auction.aspx/AuctionDetailed/51897/page1

[calvindog]

http://www.lelands.com/Auction.aspx/AuctionDetailed/51319/November-2009-Catalog/Sports/New-York-Yankees/Lot377~1970s-DiMaggio-Signed-License-Plate/page1

License plate from the 70s? "Early" in DiMag's signing career? Too bad the red, white and blue NY license plate didn't come into being until 1986!

Also from the description: "Signed early in his signing career as he would never have signed it later." --- So, since it has now been established that the plate was not signed until later in DiMag's "signing career" can we presume it is a fake?

[HRBAKER]

Jeff,
Don't get so mired down in the details. :p

[botn]

What's next I wonder? The baseball that killed Ray Chapman? The one that struck Herb Score, or Tony Conigliaro? Juan Marichal's bat? Ray Fosse's blood-splattered uniform?

Peter those are lots 1 through 5 for his first auction in 2010.

[Kawika]

"What's next I wonder?"
Check out Lot 1405.

[Abravefan11]

"What's next I wonder?"
Check out Lot 1405.

"We are offering this lot for historical purposes only and with no intent to offend."

[buymycards]

Never mind

[Matt]

"What's next I wonder?"
Check out Lot 1405.

Looks like it shows original game-used lynching marks; that's got to drive up the value.

[calvindog]

Another class act.

[Jay Wolt]

"What's next I wonder?"
Check out Lot 1405.

Don't know what's worse...
That they are offering lot #1405 or that some people have bid on it

[Republicaninmass]

"What's next I wonder?"
Check out Lot 1405.

His write up could have been worse


"not sure what to get the tough to shop for white supremasist on your Christamas list who has everything, here is the perfect idea"

I guess the disclaimer is supposed to make it better

[HRBAKER]

No intent to offend, but certainly an intent to profit which some might say is offensive.

[slidekellyslide]

What's next I wonder? The baseball that killed Ray Chapman?

"Reach logo was replaced after initial season usage"

[Peter_Spaeth]

You would think Josh would have had the good sense to turn down that lot.

[bmarlowe1]

Could Miller Huggins be under that hood?

[Jim VB]

Could Miller Huggins be under that hood?



Maybe. But the ears don't look right to me!

:D

[mybuddyinc]

1405 -- Is the insignia original, or was it professionally added from another robe ??

[slidekellyslide]

1405 -- Is the insignia original, or was it professionally added from another robe ??

We'll probably see this in next months Coach's Corner auction with a Ty Cobb signature on it.

[GrayGhost]

Harsh group of people on here, wow. That said, Josh Evans doesn't always exude class in his dealings, for sure.

If you haven't read the excellent book "Miracle Ball" bout Thomsons HR ball, there's some interesting stuff in there about Lelands part in a news story on the ball.

He does have some great stuff in his auction too. It's all about the money, just that sometimes people are blinded by it, and their judgement is clouded.

[bmarlowe1]

>>>Harsh group of people on here, wow. ....

Scott -
So tell me why does the Leland's web-site still show Al Bridwell as Miller Huggins? How long should that take to fix?

[calvindog]

I agree with Mark here. I don't expect Josh to be anything but a vulgar capitalist -- that's kind of expected with the territory. It's the outright deceptions in his descriptions which are so troubling. Why is it so easy for these guys to lie publicly? I'm still trying to imagine what he was thinking when he wrote that a Cobb check written out to and endorsed by "The Family" was Cobb's actual family. Did Cobb's family incorporate itself under the name "The Family" in order to cash his checks?

[Anthony S.]

My catalog just arrived today. Not enough time to read it and bid. That's a shame because that Klan outfit would have looked great under 1600 feet of water in the middle of Lake Tahoe.

[Rob D.]

A catalog delivered on the day the auction closes? That's aweful.

[Anthony S.]

A catalog delivered on the day the auction closes? That's aweful.

Definately.

[iggyman]

My catalog just arrived today. Not enough time to read it and bid. That's a shame because that Klan outfit would have looked great under 1600 feet of water in the middle of Lake Tahoe.

My catalog arrived today as well! Oh well, I guess we both missed the boat.

Lovely Day...

[rman444]

That's a lot better than some of my Clean Sweep catalogs that arrive about a week after the auctions have ended.

[barrysloate]

"Aweful" has just become the accepted spelling of that word.

And Anthony- "definately" is used on the board all the time. That word is nearly always spelled incorrectly.

But the most common error of all, without question, is the misuse of "its" and "it's".

[Peter_Spaeth]

its definately aweful

[barrysloate]

Three out of three ain't bad.:)

[brickyardkennedy]

Their's no excuse for there misspellings.

[Rickyy]

Yeah that Klan outfit..I don't know..not in good taste at all...but indirectly if I buy a card of a known racist like Ty Cobb, Ben Chapman, Cap Anson..I'm feeling like I'm sort of doing the same thing.. :(

[slidekellyslide]

Three out of three ain't bad.:)

How embaresing for Peter.

[bmarlowe1]

>>> Calvindog:Why is it so easy for these guys to lie publicly?

Yes - exactly. That's why I am so glad to see the response on this thread. I will shortly post a long list of errata for the current Legendary photo auction - including stuff that's wrong that they know is wrong (becasue I told them face to face) and won't change.

[Peter_Spaeth]

>>> Calvindog:Why is it so easy for these guys to lie publicly?

Yes - exactly. That's why I am so glad to see the response on this thread. I will shortly post a long list of errata for the current Legendary photo auction - including stuff that's wrong that they know is wrong (becasue I told them face to face) and won't change.

Ah now that you have mentioned Legendary, it is time to honor your request and say: TEFLON.

[prewarsports]

If you dont want to buy a card of a racist than you better just not buy any card of anyone from before WW2 because on some level, they all were racist because it was accepted in their society. I am not saying it was right or that they were good people, just that it was the norm 100 years ago and not the exception.

[teetwoohsix]

prewarsports-you said exactly what I was thinking.Back then it was the norm,keep in mind we're talking 100 years ago..............

[bmarlowe1]

Ah now that you have mentioned Legendary, it is time to honor your request and say: TEFLON.

Peter - you are certainly right with respect to Lelands, Legendary, and Heritage.

But Net54 posts and emails have resulted in corrections (and even refunds) from REA, Hunt, 19th Century Only, and SGC (if I left anyone out, I apologize). The responses have always been polite, even appreciative.

Late edit: - let me revise the above slightly - back in April, Legendary was responsive to one of my posts and corrected errors on some Hermes Ice Cream pin-backs. But recently they had been unresponsive.

[kylebicking]

Anyone win anything in the auction? I got three emails saying I won the one lot I bid on, but also three saying I did not win it.

[bcbgcbrcb]

I can't believe that it's finally over, 5:20am EST must be a new all-time record!

I went to bed at 10:30pm EST got almost a full night's sleep, woke up at about 4:15am EST to check the status of my bid, saw that I was outbid but the auction appeared to still be active. Thus, I placed one more bid at 4:30am and ended up winning the lot, Willie Wells Negro League photo.

[Jim VB]

Anyone win anything in the auction? I got three emails saying I won the one lot I bid on, but also three saying I did not win it.



A tie goes to the runner????

[bmarlowe1]

Looks like some lucky bidder "won" the phony Miller Huggins for $3178.02

Any opinions on what it's really worth as Al Bridwell?

[slidekellyslide]

That Bridwell photo is a $300 photo if identified correctly. The mount is trimmed off and there's writing on the front. A Bob Unglaub Horner cabinet in nearly perfect condition recently sold on ebay for $600.

Someone got screwed and I find it hard to believe that Leland's wasn't aware of this thread or the emails you sent them. No excuse for this.

[calvindog]

Of course Leland's was aware of this thread. The heads of the auction houses review these threads 19 times a day. Leland's probably figured that if the buyer bought it and didn't complain then they made a score; if not and a request was made for a refund, I'm sure they'd give it. But why give back money when you can steal it instead?

To twist a line from a classic movie: "Money stolen is twice as sweet as money earned."

PS: Is Leland going to be the keynote speaker at the next Net 54 dinner? Will he again pontificate about the good and bad in the industry? Will he include his fraud in his next speech? What a scumbag.

[bmarlowe1]

>>> Calvindog:The heads of the auction houses review these threads 19 times a day....

I see that Chris Ivy has recently visited my Net54 profile. Hi there Chris. Next time leave a note.

I'm still waiting for a thank you from you guys for helping y'all figure out that the Mark Americans photo (est. $4000-6000) was bogus.

[slidekellyslide]

>>> Calvindog:The heads of the auction houses review these threads 19 times a day....

I see that Chris Ivy has recently visited my Net54 profile. Hi there Chris. Next time leave a note.

I'm still waiting for a thank you from you guys for helping y'all figure out that the Mark Americans photo (est. $4000-6000) was bogus.

And the funny thing about that is that the Mark Americans photo was deemed to be bogus on Net54 a year or so before Heritage sold it.

[Exhibitman]

Of course Leland's was aware of this thread. The heads of the auction houses review these threads 19 times a day. Leland's probably figured that if the buyer bought it and didn't complain then they made a score; if not and a request was made for a refund, I'm sure they'd give it. But why give back money when you can steal it instead?

To twist a line from a classic movie: "Money stolen is twice as sweet as money earned."

PS: Is Leland going to be the keynote speaker at the next Net 54 dinner? Will he again pontificate about the good and bad in the industry? Will he include his fraud in his next speech? What a scumbag.

I think I just threw up a bit in my mouth...

[Peter_Spaeth]

"Teflon is a nickname given to persons, particularly in politics, to whom criticism does not seem to stick. The term comes from Teflon, the brand name of a "non-stick" chemical used on cookware, and was first applied to the American President Ronald Reagan."

[kylebicking]

Anyone get invoices for the auction yet? I'd like to pay them sooner than later...

[bcbgcbrcb]

not me

[Jacklitsch]

"Teflon is a nickname given to persons, particularly in politics, to whom criticism does not seem to stick. The term comes from Teflon, the brand name of a "non-stick" chemical used on cookware, and was first applied to the American President Ronald Reagan."

Didn't John Gotti, Sr. the "Teflon Don" bear the handle before Reagan?

[Republicaninmass]

I have never heard Reagan referred to by Teflon Don, it was John Gotti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon_don

[HRBAKER]

I have never heard Reagan referred to by Teflon Don, it was John Gotti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon_don

I think they were just referring to the "teflon" part. :)