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GKreindler
11-03-2009, 01:47 PM
Hey all,

I hope nobody minds, but I figured that I would start a thread for whatever's going on in my studio. Well, anything that I think is worthy of posting, that is.

I figure that if everyone's cool with it, I can show some finished pieces here, as it's taking a while for me to get my website fully updated. Additionally, I can show some in-progress shots of other things, be they commissions or for my inventory. Just know that the quality of the photos I take myself aren't even close to that of the ones I have done professionally!

Speaking of whom, I just picked these up from those photographers:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Babe_Ruth_1927_Portrait.jpg
Babe Ruth, 1927, 9"x12"

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Joe_DiMaggio_1935_Portrait.jpg
Joe DiMaggio, 1933 (I think), 9"x12"

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Lou_Gehrig_1936_Portrait_Conlon.jpg
Lou Gehrig, 1936, 16"x20"

The Ruth portrait is already spoken for by a fellow board member, but if anyone is interested in the other two, feel free to drop me a line.

And as usual, comments/critiques/rotten tomatoes are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Graig

PS: Oh, and special thanks to Jimmy for allowing me to use some of his images for these bad boys!

cwazzy
11-03-2009, 02:54 PM
Graig, you have an amazing gift! I can only dream of the day that I can afford to hang one of your paintings on my wall. Keep the pictures coming! I asked you this over on the PSA boards but do you have any plans for a Roy Campanella painting?

Chris

mr2686
11-03-2009, 02:56 PM
Graig,

I think all three are great, but the Gehrig is beyond belief. You really captured
him. Well done.

GKreindler
11-03-2009, 04:23 PM
Thanks so much for the compliments, guys! I sincerely appreciate them.

Chris, I do have some shots of Roy in mind to paint, but there's nothing in the very immediate future. I'm hoping to at least do a small 9"x12" or 11"x14" portrait soon, and I suppose I'm just looking for some free time to tackle a larger image of him. I did just find some great shots of him from the '52 World Series that have really piqued my interest...

Jay Wolt
11-03-2009, 04:50 PM
Graig, fanstastic as usual.
I like the Gehrig piece the best, but all are worthy to hang on any collectors wall.

barrysloate
11-03-2009, 04:53 PM
Graig- your work is sensational. Your application of light and shadows is really amazing.

ChiefBenderForever
11-03-2009, 05:12 PM
Wow!

GKreindler
11-03-2009, 07:10 PM
Thanks fellas!

Barry, thank you for those words about light. That's actually the main thing I try to instill into each painting. I feel like it goes beyond making something look photographic, but giving the viewer the impression that he/she is there, breathing the same air as these players. In the end, if people can see these images and be brought back to days of youth with their fathers and grandfathers and actually smell the popcorn, cigar smoke, and hear the buzz of the crowd, then I'm incredibly happy.

GKreindler
11-03-2009, 10:14 PM
In the spirit of the ol' 'washed up' man starting for the Phillies in the game tomorrow, here's an in-progress shot of another supposedly 'washed up' veteran who happened to beat the Yanks in Games 2 and 6 in the '26 Blue Ribbon classic, not to mention close out the final innings of Game 7 with stellar relief work, most notably against Tony Lazzeri. Ol' Pete!!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/GCA2.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/GCA.jpg

Another Conlon shot, dating from '28, I think. This one's 11"x14", and the image has some interesting light going for it. It's far from done, but I feel like it's starting to take on some personality. Gotta love those wrinkles.

Oh, and excuse the photography, and the crappy angle - it seems that shooting it this way is the only chance I have at avoiding any glare.

Graig

GKreindler
11-04-2009, 01:11 AM
Alright, this is it for tonight. I promise.

The first Jewish superstar of the Major Leagues, Hammerin' Hank Greenberg:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/HG1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/HG2.jpg

Again, this one's FAR from done. And, like the Grover Cleveland image, this is from a Conlon photo and is 11"x14".

I know, I know, the photograph sucks. The glare is wreaking havoc on the left side of his face, as that side cheek isn't so rosy. Argh. One day, I'll master the technique of taking proper in-progress photographs. Or at least, I hope.

Hope you enjoy 'em!

yanksfan09
11-04-2009, 08:01 AM
I really like that Ruth. They all look great though.

thekingofclout
11-04-2009, 08:47 AM
Here are the photos of mine that Graig mentioned using for his paintings...

Gives you a great opportunity to see just how much he nails these images!

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More fantastic creations Brutha! Well done. BTW... I really love the way that Alexander is coming together Graig. Can't wait to see Old Pete once you're done with him.




Hey all,

I hope nobody minds, but I figured that I would start a thread for whatever's going on in my studio. Well, anything that I think is worthy of posting, that is.

I figure that if everyone's cool with it, I can show some finished pieces here, as it's taking a while for me to get my website fully updated. Additionally, I can show some in-progress shots of other things, be they commissions or for my inventory. Just know that the quality of the photos I take myself aren't even close to that of the ones I have done professionally!

Speaking of whom, I just picked these up from those photographers:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Babe_Ruth_1927_Portrait.jpg
Babe Ruth, 1927, 9"x12"

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Joe_DiMaggio_1935_Portrait.jpg
Joe DiMaggio, 1933 (I think), 9"x12"

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Lou_Gehrig_1936_Portrait.jpg
Lou Gehrig, 1936, 11"x14"

The Ruth portrait is already spoken for by a fellow board member, but if anyone is interested in the other two, feel free to drop me a line.

And as usual, comments/critiques/rotten tomatoes are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Graig

PS: Oh, and special thanks to Jimmy for allowing me to use some of his images for these bad boys!

mayx2
11-04-2009, 04:40 PM
I had the opportunity to briefly meet Graig at the national and see his paintings in person and pics don't do them justice! When you see them in person they make you just stare in awe of how beautiful and realistic they are.I know nothung about art or painting,but I can tell you Graig has been blessed with amazing skills. I hope to have a painting of Roberto Clemente done one day,God willing.Keep up the great work!

Lou

yanks12025
11-04-2009, 05:47 PM
That Gehrig is great.

GKreindler
11-05-2009, 01:50 PM
Thanks so much for all of the wonderful compliments, guys, as well as the support. I really couldn't be surrounded by a better bunch of fellas.

I just got this one back from the photographer's today as well:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Babe_Ruth_1921_September_7_Bats.jpg

The shot is the Great Bambino from September 7, 1921, picking out his weapon of choice in between a doubleheader against Boston. In the second game, he would hit his 52nd homer of the year, propelling the Yanks to a 7-2 victory. In winning both contests, New York found themselves a game ahead of Cleveland for first place in the AL, and a month later, would win the first of their (now) 27 World Championships.

Hope y'all enjoy!

cwazzy
11-05-2009, 02:11 PM
Wow! I feel like I could crawl right in there with the Babe! Nice work, once again!

milkit1
11-05-2009, 04:40 PM
ok graig lets see some tinker evers chance :)

PhilNap
11-05-2009, 09:29 PM
I picked up the Ruth portrait from Graig's agent yesterday. Hung it on the wall today and can't stop staring at it. I swear the brim of his cap and the tip of his distinctive nose stick out past the frame and into the room. It is stunning. I saw the Gehrig, the Dimaggio and Ruth with bats in person . . . all spectacular.

GrayGhost
11-06-2009, 06:54 AM
As usual, simply beautiful work.

GKreindler
11-06-2009, 09:19 AM
Thanks fellas!!

:)

GKreindler
11-08-2009, 10:07 PM
Here's what's been on the easel this weekend. A biggie at 38"x60", this is a commission that I've finally been getting around to finishing. Or at least, getting close to finishing. I hope.

My father has threatened to disown me on numerous occasions for this one. Like most Yankee fans his age, I don't think he's ever gotten over this moment...and I don't think he ever will...and I can't blame him:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Maz.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Maz2.jpg

It's got a ways to go, but hopefully I can get it done and out of my sights before he sees it again. There's just so much darn information in there, especially with the wall, the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh, the scoreboard, and that damn crowd in left. It's driving me bananas!

As usual, please excuse the cruddy photography. Hope everyone had a great weekend!

Graig

Jay Wolt
11-08-2009, 10:14 PM
Graig, another awesome masterpiece

perezfan
11-09-2009, 09:48 AM
I love seeing the ball in flight on that one...

Does anyone know what the ball had to clear at Forbes' Left Field, to be considered a home run (did it have to clear that giant scoreboard?) Did Maz really hit his homer over that scoreboard (to the right of the clock) as it appears? I've read numerous times that his homer barely made it out, but have never seen clear footage of the ball's flight, or where it ended up.

Also... What's with the scaffolding at the base of the light tower in left? The red brick fence is clearly behind that scaffolding. Seems like quite the obstacle to overcome, if that was truly in the field of play!

You're right Graig... there's a lot going on in that busy painting (which is magnificent, btw!)

mr2686
11-09-2009, 12:10 PM
From the footage that I've seen, Maz's hr actually went to the right of the scoreboard (facing it) and over that wall (in Graig's painting, you can see the fielder, which is Yogi Berra). The footage showed him going to the warning track and then pealing off as the ball went over the wall... I would consider that Left-Center field.

jacksons
11-09-2009, 01:21 PM
Knowing Graig, I wouldn't doubt if he flipped every stone for evidence attesting to the ball's true flight and destination before he sketched this out.

What a tremendous piece, Graig!

mr2686
11-09-2009, 02:01 PM
This appears to be taken very accurately from a famous photograph of Mazeroski's hr. Remember, don't think two dimensionally...it looks like the ball
is going over the scoreboard but if you were to see the ball keep going you would see it go in front of the scaffolding and over to left center.

GKreindler
11-10-2009, 02:37 PM
Thanks for all of the compliments, guys!

The photo is indeed a famous one. Taken by Marvin E. Newman, it has to be one of my favorite photographs of all time. He talked about it in a special on HBO, something about sports photography. I remember him (or a critic) mentioning that it was so genius because of all of the information was there: the clock with the time of day, the scoreboard, Maz in mid-swing, light conditions, Yogi in left-center, and awesomely enough, the ball in mid-flight. I don't think anyone could have timed it better.

Here's some footage of that last play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-zjk7TeAf8&feature=related

And man, was it a bitch getting all of this color right. And it will most likely continue to be a bitch...

GKreindler
11-12-2009, 12:28 AM
Here's what I was playing around with today:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DSCN2564.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DSCN2563.jpg

The scenes from the day that Gehrig broke his streak have always had a place in my heart. Aside from the great images of Lou gazing out of the dugout longingly, they're also beautiful shots of Babe Dahlgren, his replacement at first. Being friends with Matt Dahlgren (his grandson) for so long, I've really come to appreciate the whole scenario from a different perspective. I can't imagine what it must have been like to be called upon to fill the shoes of one's idol. I can't wait to get some paintings done of that great man as well.

Anywho, this one's got a LONG way to go, but I thought Gehrig's face is starting to come together. Now I just need to block everything else in! Hopefully the client approves...

Oh, and also, VERY many thanks go out to a kind and generous man, who was nice enough to let me borrow the Matty painting to be re-photographed by my normal guys in the city. The guy I used before did an alright job, but I was never thrilled about the work. Now, I am MUCH happier with these results, as this scan is more true to the original painting.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Christy_Mathewson_1911.jpg

Again, thank you SO much jacksons!

Hope you all enjoy. And aren't sick of these posts.

John V
11-12-2009, 04:36 AM
Without studying any old photos, not only do I recall the cage around the light standards, the batting cage was on wheels and was dragged out to deep center field for storage during the game. Love those quirky obstacles in the old ballparks!

(I don't mean to hijack the artwork thread)

JasonL
11-20-2009, 01:40 PM
or perhaps this past week, if you are on Thanksgiving hiatus?

GKreindler
11-20-2009, 10:28 PM
No hiatus for me, Jason! No rest for the wicked! Or those who paint!!

I'm still working on that large Mazeroski painting, and am hoping to have a ton of it done by the end of the weekend, so I'll post it then.

For now, I've done more work to Grover. He's not done yet, but he's getting somewhat close. I have a lot of edges to soften and sharpen, and flesh out a bit more on his uniform. But, I like where it's going thus far!!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/GCA1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/GCA2-1.jpg

I also have these two other portraits that have about an hour or so into them (as I'm sure you can tell).

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/LG.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/JT.jpg

And, I started another commission on the queue, though it only has a few hours into it as well. The image is really unstoppable, if you ask me. That Paul Thompson was some kind of photographer. I hope I can do his vision some sort of justice in the end, or at least, give the impression of what he saw in color before he pushed the shutter...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/BR1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/BR2.jpg

As per usual, please excuse the crummy photography. The only one that seems even remotely true to life is the Grover Cleveland. Both Grove and Thorpe are blown out. Ruth's hat and socks are definitely NOT that blue in my painting. Man, I need a new camera. or some skills.

In addition to all of this, I have some more commissions I'm hoping to start this weekend as well, but most of those canvases need to be stretched first (a Herculean task in its own right)!

Thanks for taking an interest!

Graig

ChiefBenderForever
11-20-2009, 10:33 PM
As always very nice !! Congrats on all the comissions !!

Forever Young
11-21-2009, 11:17 AM
Graig,
These are simply magnificent. The Ruth at the bottom is already better than everything else out there(in my opinion) with only a few hours of "work" in!
Ben

GKreindler
11-24-2009, 01:21 PM
Hey all,

I just wanted to thank everyone for all of their support in this thread (as well as off of it), you've all been incredibly kind. I really appreciate it more than I can possibly express.

Because of an influx of work from you guys, as well as those outside of Net54, I am now 2.5 years out on commissions. On that same token, my agent told me that he's going to be raising my prices again on the first of January, 2010. With that in mind, if anyone wants to get in on the queue before the new rates, shoot me a message!

Thanks again all!

Graig

ChiefBenderForever
11-28-2009, 09:51 PM
I just picked up 'Sports Collector's Monthly Presents Mantle, the Man and his memorabilia' magazine and the first thing I opened it up to was one of Graigs paintings, then some pages later another one. Very nice ! As far as this issue goes it is great for any Mantle or Yankee fan and I highly recommend picking it up.

baseball tourist
11-28-2009, 11:07 PM
Here's what I was playing around with today:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DSCN2564.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DSCN2563.jpg

The scenes from the day that Gehrig broke his streak have always had a place in my heart. Aside from the great images of Lou gazing out of the dugout longingly, they're also beautiful shots of Babe Dahlgren, his replacement at first. Being friends with Matt Dahlgren (his grandson) for so long, I've really come to appreciate the whole scenario from a different perspective. I can't imagine what it must have been like to be called upon to fill the shoes of one's idol. I can't wait to get some paintings done of that great man as well.

Anywho, this one's got a LONG way to go, but I thought Gehrig's face is starting to come together. Now I just need to block everything else in! Hopefully the client approves...

Oh, and also, VERY many thanks go out to a kind and generous man, who was nice enough to let me borrow the Matty painting to be re-photographed by my normal guys in the city. The guy I used before did an alright job, but I was never thrilled about the work. Now, I am MUCH happier with these results, as this scan is more true to the original painting.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Christy_Mathewson_1911.jpg

Again, thank you SO much jacksons!

Hope you all enjoy. And aren't sick of these posts.

Graig....your work is great...but especially this Matty...wow! chris

GKreindler
12-16-2009, 02:13 PM
Hey all!!

I hope everyone is having a great holiday season thus far. I just picked these two up from the photographers, and I thought I'd share 'em.

The first is the complete 11"x14" Grover Cleveland Alexander painting from that lovely 1928 Conlon photo. This bad boy is going to a board member and should be out in the mail later today or tomorrow. Gotta love how weathered that man's face was!!!

And the second image is...well...the object of my father's pain. I don't think my father has a more rueful memory from his childhood, to be honest. If you're a Yankee fan from that era, I'm sure you'll know what I'm talking about. Anywho, it's pretty large at 38"x60", and man, I'm glad it's out of the studio and on its way to Pittsburgh. Be gone!!

Comments/critiques/rotten tomatoes are always welcomed!!

Thanks for reading,

Graig

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Grover_Cleveland_Alexander_1928_Smi.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Bill_Mazeroski_1960_October_13_Home.jpg

Kawika
12-16-2009, 04:25 PM
I watched this game as a ten year old on our old Magnavox. I remember Maz's swing, the flight of the ball and Berra's hangdog look like it was yesterday. The world was black and white then.
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/websize/Maz_montage.JPG.jpeg
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/ch930919.gif

PhilNap
12-16-2009, 09:11 PM
Graig, now that the bad memory is finally gone from the studio perhaps Dad will better appreciate a team that defeated those boys from Pittsburgh some 33 years earlier.

GKreindler
12-16-2009, 09:57 PM
I think it's fair to say that he's going to love that painting MUCH more...

:)

GKreindler
12-17-2009, 09:35 PM
Here's what's on the easel right now, and 'yes', it's pretty darn weird.

This was a commission from a guy who's friend owns an original authentic Wagner. Why he wanted a painting of his friend's card, I'll never know. He didn't necessarily want me to do my interpretation of the card, but rather a trompe l'oeil of sorts.

In actuality, I'm enjoying the project. It's about halfway through now, and trying to duplicate the moiré pattern of the lithograph should be a challenge. It's an odd size at 5.5"x10", and as usual, please excuse the crummy photography...

Comments and critiques are always welcome!

Graig

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Wagner-1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Wagner2.jpg

GrayGhost
12-18-2009, 07:45 AM
I really like that a lot, but no surprise there. Continued success Graig with your phenomenal work.

jacksons
12-18-2009, 08:10 AM
Always a treat to see what you're up to next, Graig. I always look for updates to this thread. Once again, outstanding work.

GKreindler
12-18-2009, 03:26 PM
Thanks for the compliments, guys!!

:)

cwazzy
12-18-2009, 03:39 PM
Awesome work as usual, Graig. As soon as I hit the lottery I'll be sending you a check for a custom piece. :)

perezfan
12-18-2009, 04:15 PM
Graig...

Your posts on this thread are so much appreciated. Could you possibly post a photo of the Babe Ruth Painting (taken from the Paul Thompson image) when it is completed?

That one is particularly "breath taking" and I would love to see the finished product, if at all possible. Thanks again!

GKreindler
12-22-2009, 04:01 PM
I'll definitely keep you posted with shots of that Ruth painting, Mark. I'm glad you like it so much!! I can only hope that when it's completed, it will have done Thompson's eye proud.

I'm not exactly sure when I'm going to get around to finishing it, as I do have a lot of other paintings that need to come before it. I do usually jump from painting to painting on every given day, but sometimes I can get really into a particular painting and just see it through, whether it's due sooner or not. I guess ya never know what's going to happen!

GKreindler
12-24-2009, 04:24 PM
Happy holidays everyone!!

I hope everyone's having a wonderful break and spending time with the people they love. I guess I'm spending time with the easel I love, or something. So, here's what's on that bad boy right now.

The first is the famous Conlon shot of Joe Jackson from 1913. In my opinion, there isn't a better image of the man from the early days. The glare in his eyes are by far the focal point - hopefully that will come across when the painting is done.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/JJackson.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/JJackson2.jpg

The second is a panoramic of Honus Wagner from 1909. He's shown hitting a ball into the outfield at the West Side Grounds, home of the Chicago Cubs. What's really interesting to me about this whole painting is that after MUCH researching, I was finally able to discover the color scheme of the old ballpark - who would have thought that one from the turn of the century would be mostly red??

The image is one of Francis Burkes - in my opinion one the greatest and most underrated baseball photographers of all time. I know the gentleman who has the rights to his entire collection of photos, and man, I would kill to get my hands on them!!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Wagner-2.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Wagner2-1.jpg

As per usual, please excuse the god-awful photography, and obviously, they each have a looooong way to go. Critiques/comments/questions/rotten tomatoes are greatly appreciated.

Thanks for reading!

Graig

jacksons
12-25-2009, 12:18 PM
I am very proud to say that I know you, Graig.

Your talents are simply immense - this Jackson and the Wagner are some of the finest I've seen on here (though I put your Matty #1 ;).

How'd you like to be on the mound against Jackson and he gives you THAT look? Can you say Intentional Walk?

And you certainly nailed Wagner's big mitts!

Love the "On the Easel" updates!

Awesome stuff, buddy!

BrockJacob
12-25-2009, 12:55 PM
This Wagner is my new favorite. The realism is simply unbelievable. Upon close inspection I am truly taken back by the details. The ridges in the wool socks really caught my eye. As did the frayed sleeves on his undershirt.
I cant wait to see the finished product. Thanks for sharing your gift Graig.

19cbb
12-25-2009, 01:48 PM
Matty #1
Wagner #2, but waiting for finished work...

Thanks for sharing!

GKreindler
12-27-2009, 12:09 AM
Wow!!! Thanks for the wonderful compliments, guys!! And really jacksons, I should be saying the same stuff about you (and I do)!

I'm glad the Wagner seems to be coming along alright. I just think it's one of the most amazing action shots of Honus that I've ever seen, especially with those big paws. I also LOVE that bat - there's barely any tapering at the handle! I just hope that in the end, the viewer will feel like he/she is at the West Side Grounds watching the action in 1909, not just looking at a colorized photograph or something. If I can pull that off right, then I certainly feel like I've done my job.

And the Joe Jackson, well, I have to give all of that credit to Conlon. Those eyes. Man, 'nuff said.

But really, I'm so glad that you're enjoying these updates, as I don't want to waste any bandwidth with my stuff. As long as y'all want to see more though, I'll continue to post 'em!

Hope everyone had/is having a wonderful holiday!

Graig

GKreindler
01-07-2010, 10:02 AM
Hey all,

I got a few emails asking how things were going with the Joe Jackson Conlon I was working on, so I thought I'd post the work from last night. I'm only starting to flesh out the face right now, so not much work has been done on the body.

I hope that the glare that's so unmistakable in Conlon's photo will come through in the final. But either way, it's got a while to go...

Hope everyone had a wonderful (and safe) New Years!!

Thanks,

Graig

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/JoeJacksonPortrait.jpg

(As per usual, please excuse the cruddy photography!)

stone193
01-07-2010, 06:22 PM
Hi Graig

I've been watching your work for some time now - and I always thought it was superb but it seems you're getting better! If that's humanly possible.

Your work doesn't only capture the likeness but also the spirit/soul of the individuals you're painting.

Thanx for sharing.
mike

LOUCARDFAN
01-08-2010, 08:13 AM
Graig, I just have one word for the Jackson - WOW!

GKreindler
01-08-2010, 09:54 AM
Thanks for the compliments, guys! I can only hope that I can keep doing whatever it is that I'm doing!

ptr002
01-08-2010, 03:01 PM
Graig,

Your attention to detail is incredible. I look forward to working with you on that Gehrig/Dimaggio piece.

GKreindler
01-08-2010, 07:36 PM
Me too, Paul! I've always wanted to do an image of that scene. There's just something about the triumvirate of Gehrig, DiMaggio and LaGuardia that's always looked so cool to me. I wonder if deep down, they knew they were going to roll over the Cubs in that series...

milkit1
01-11-2010, 07:33 PM
did you score that awesome Goslin picture?

GKreindler
01-11-2010, 09:01 PM
Unfortunately, I did not. I had my eyes on a few of those negatives, and I didn't win a single one. :(

JasonL
02-11-2010, 02:47 PM
so I thought I'd check up and see what Graig is working on...

So Graig, whatcha doin' lately?

GKreindler
02-12-2010, 08:38 AM
Whoa! Has it been over a month since I posted something? Yikes.

Thank you for showing an interest Jason!! Sometimes I worry that I put this stuff up and just waste bandwidth.

So, I have these on the easel right now.

I'm currently finishing up this Wagner piece, and despite my best efforts, it's destroying my life. It's almost where I want it to be, but they're still some problems with that darn light, as well as the odd red of the ballpark. It's still hard for me imagine that the West Side Grounds were such a color at that point in the new century, but according to all the local newspapers of the day, it indeed was. They're also some curvature issues of the stands that need to be dealt with - they're an eye-sore!!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Wagner1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Wagner2-2.jpg

This Joe Jackson painting is just about done, as I only have a few things to work out in the background. I had to flesh out the white stands behind the fence, as they just appear as blurry blobs in the photo. Thankfully, I have a good amount of reference from the Polo Grounds during that year (1913).

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Jackson1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Jackson2.jpg

This last one is turning out to be a lot of fun too, though there's a lot of research that still needs to be done. The scene is Cobb at bat on Opening Day of the 1908 season. The Tigers were playing the White Sox at the South End Grounds, which 20,000 piled onto the field to check out. Though Detroit lost the contest, Cobb had a hell of a game with a couple of hits and a home run. I also just love seeing action shots like this of the man, especially with that intense look of concentration. What's also interesting to consider about the image is that I have to paint uniforms that look new and pretty, what with being the first game of the season and all. I guess it's just weird for me to picture Tyrus Raymond Cobb in a uniform that DOESN'T have dirt on it.

Though, I'm still waiting on some microfilm to get information about the park and the such, so this is currently on hold until I can figure out exactly what's going on with those details. Man, these deadball era parks are TOUGH!!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/CobbProgress1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/CobbProgress2.jpg

Also, I've started a - dare I say it - golf painting. The shot is of Bobby Jones during the 1927 British Open, teeing off at the 17th hole at St. Andrews. It's a pretty busy image with a lot of crowd and beautiful light, but hopefully I'll be able to pull it off. Once I get more onto the canvas, I'll post something if you're all interested.

So, as usual, please excuse my godawful photography (which keeps getting worse and worse), and definitely feel free to throw crits/complaints/suggestions/Pop-Tarts my way!!!

Graig

perezfan
02-12-2010, 09:38 AM
Wow Graig... I'm at a loss for words, as they just keep getting better and better. Cobb looks simply incredible against that magnificent backdrop, and the Wagner image appears as if it could pop right off of the canvas and come alive.

Incredible work- has me salivating!

Pup6913
02-12-2010, 09:48 AM
Amazing just does not describe the work you do;)

If you decide the Wagner painting is to much for you and want to scrap it let me know and I will pay for the trash bin to be delivered to my house for disposal:D

timzcardz
02-12-2010, 10:53 AM
Whoa! Has it been over a month since I posted something? Yikes.

Thank you for showing an interest Jason!! Sometimes I worry that I put this stuff up and just waste bandwidth.




Wasted bandwidth?

This is some of the best bandwidth on the net!

The glimpses that you provide us of your work and process are womderful.

Thank you for sharing.

GKreindler
02-12-2010, 12:07 PM
Thanks guys, that's really nice of you to say. I mean, REALLY nice. I feel like whenever I'm down on what I'm doing, you guys are always there to pick me up. And believe you me, some of these have been absolute battles.

And, Pup, I'll certainly keep you posted about the contents of my trash. :)

Lordstan
02-12-2010, 02:35 PM
Hey wait a minute! Why does he get dibs on the trash?
Forget arranging pick up, I'll even come myself to hand collate it for you?:D

Graig,
They are all just fantastic. I hope you know we aren't all being kind just to stroke your ego.
It is a rare gift to be able to watch greatness at work. I don't think anyone would disagree that what you do is fantastic.

Even if we can't own them all, they sure are incredible to watch evolve.

Mark

cwazzy
02-12-2010, 03:14 PM
Great stuff, as usual! Have you thought about creating a live stream while you paint? I would be interested to see your technique (unless that's a trade secret ;)).

JeremyW
02-12-2010, 03:17 PM
I always loved looking at my Stein Wagner, but now it seems more like a photocopy to me after seeing your interpretation.http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14036&stc=1&d=1266012595

Kawika
02-12-2010, 04:20 PM
Graig: You are just a young guy but your opus already comprises greatness; your trajectory through the coming decades defies one's imagination. (I'm not sure what I just wrote there but it sounded good). I can see you at age 50 as a grandmaster of baseball art, the Norman Rockwell of the Ballyard. It's too bad you weren't around a couple of generations ago when painted art graced the covers of magazines such as the Saturday Evening Post. You'd've had a steady gig. I hope, no, I insist that a "coffee table" retrospective of the baseball paintings of Graig Kreindler be in the offing someday soon. Awesome, awesome stuff.
DMcD

thekingofclout
02-12-2010, 05:16 PM
Graig,They are all just fantastic. I hope you know we aren't all being kind just to stroke your ego.

It is a rare gift to be able to watch greatness at work. I don't think anyone would disagree that what you do is fantastic. Mark

is that he has no ego. No kidding. Due to the nature of my business, I have made acquaintances of several thousand people over the years, maybe more, and Graig's genuine humility is as pure as any I have ever seen.

I'm immensely proud to count him as a great friend.

Love ya Brutha... Jimmy

GKreindler
02-12-2010, 06:19 PM
Wow. I don't even know what to say!! Thank you everyone for all of those wonderful things you've said. I know I've said it before, but I'm just so pleased that y'all seem to dig what I'm doing so much. It really means a lot to me to create these things, and though it may sound a little cheesy, this stuff is really my life-force. It's on my mind 95% of my waking life (the other 5% being devoted to chicken strips and french fries), and it's just something that I feel like I need to do. Thank god I enjoy it so much!

Mark, I guess if you're willing to make the trek over to New York and rummage through the trash, I can't stop ya. I just hope that you're pleased with the stuff you're going to find!! :)

Chris, it's funny you mention that, as Dean (my agent) does want to film me painting something - and I'm sure he'll get to it eventually. The only problem is, I usually paint in my boxers and not much else, so I'd be worried about what my audience would be seeing in addition to the canvas. Was that too much information?

Jeremy, I can't believe you'd prefer my painting of the Stein!! I still feel like I'm not capturing what Burke so eloquently showed us in his photograph. What a master he was!!! But really, thank you.

David, I'm going to be thirty in a few months, so I don't know if I can still be considered young. Actually, the amount of gray hairs popping up on my head is seriously alarming. By the time I'm 50, I'm expecting to maybe be 1/100 the artist that Rockwell was. I couldn't wash that man's brushes!! And regarding a coffee table book, well, I can't divulge much here, but something may (or may not) be in the works!!

Jimmy, as per usual, you make me blush. I think the only reason I come off as being humble is because I'm so darn short - usually I'm too close to the ground for people to hear me. I'm proud to call you my brutha from anotha mutha.

Really, thanks guys...

danc
02-12-2010, 07:17 PM
Incredible.

DanC

Jantz
02-12-2010, 09:12 PM
Graig

Absolutely amazing. I keep waiting for Matty to blink.

To me though, the Cobb looks perfect the way it is right now. If was going to be the future owner of that painting, I wouldn't want you to do another thing to it.

I always enjoy seeing your paintings.

Thanks for sharing,

Jantz

whitehse
02-12-2010, 09:13 PM
I am sitting here with my wife who could give a rats rear end about sports and I showed her these paintings. She was as taken with them as I have been all this time. She is amazed at the life-like nature of your paintings and how exceptional they are. I have to say....somewhere along the line, I hope to God you will start selling lithos or at the very minimum, posters that can be purchased. You have a talent that needs to be shown to a wider audience and I know I cant afford an original but I would love to own a signed litho or poster!!

Keep up the great work.

ElCabron
02-13-2010, 01:25 AM
I saw that Matty painting at the National and was absolutely blown away by it. One of the most stunning pieces of art I've ever seen. I swear I stood there for at least 15 minutes just staring at it. By the end of the 15 minutes I had decided to buy it, but it was already sold.

I'd love to see you bring some Negro Leaguers to life on the canvas. And so would my walls!

Keep up the mind-blowingly brilliant work!

-Ryan

robedits
02-13-2010, 08:32 AM
GK...your work is stunning. Absolutely gorgeous. You have incredible talent. Something about those are very haunting,and beautiful at the same time.
Just great work.

howard38
02-13-2010, 10:31 AM
Graig, I ordinarily don't respond to threads such as this but your paintings are too good to ignore. It doesn't have anything to do w/the baseball theme either. The mastery of color and shadowing/contrast is fantastic w/the Mathewson portrait being perhaps the best example (fwiw I have a degree in Art History).

Do you do anything other than baseball related work that can be viewed on the web?

Thanks,

Howard

GKreindler
02-13-2010, 01:46 PM
Wow, you guys are all incredibly nice. Really.

DanC, Thank you!!

Jantz, thank you so much those kind words. I was just curious, what about the Cobb right now makes you want it the way it is? I've actually had one or two other people tell me the same thing, and that sometimes they really dig the 'unfinished' look of the paintings.

Whitehse, I don't think that we're going to be doing lithos or reproductions of the baseball stuff anytime soon, but it is possible that there will be a book or catalog available at some point. Or at least, I'm hoping so. Of course, when/if that stuff happens, I'll be sure to let you and board know. And thanks for the compliments, both from you and your wife!! I'm really glad that you guys dig the stuff.

NoizeBringer, did we get to talk at all during the National? Either way, I'm really pleased you liked the Matty painting. That one seemed to be received better than anything on our walls, which I guess can be a double-edged sword. Hopefully I can continue to make portraits that can illicit that kind of reaction!! Regarding the Negro Leagues stuff, I definitely have a lot of images in mind, including some of Satchel, Jackie, and of course, Gibson. The only problem that I run into with those is that there's so little available in terms of photo reference, and in a lot of cases, just general information, that I'm a little worried that I couldn't do the justice that those images (and men) deserve.

robedits, the compliment of 'haunting' is really friggin' awesome - thank you so much!

Howard, thanks for those awesome words, especially since you may not respond to art threads often!! I appreciate the exception :). In regards to other work, there isn't much that's available on the web, as the majority of my older illustration work never made it into the digital world. I feel like right now, the only paintings in the studio are either baseball themed, or just older art school stuff (studies from life, plein air, etc.).

Again, thank you so much everybody!

Jantz
02-13-2010, 04:18 PM
Graig,

I posted the comment because when I look at your Cobb painting that is exactly how my eyes would see it.

Just image if you had tickets to that very game back in 1908 and this was the view from your seat. Up steps the great Ty Cobb to take his at-bat. How much of the background or any other detail inside the stadium would anyone really notice? If I were sitting there, my entire focus and attention would be on Cobb. You might see it differently because you are an artist, but the way you have the painting now, Cobb's form being the only detailed part in the painting makes him "jump right out" of the painting.

Some may say it is unfinished, but I think you've already captured the moment in this painting.

Once again, truly amazing.

Jantz

Lordstan
02-14-2010, 08:39 AM
Jantz,
Wow. Great observation.
It is interesting to compare the Wagner to the Cobb. Both shots are from the same perspective, but opposite sides of the plate.
Cobb does stand out more than Wagner, between the two. Cobb def has a more 3D effect. In the Wagner, the stands and all the detail do lessen the impact of his figure. Still, there is something to be said for seeing that stadium in all it's glory. The colors, crowd and all those little things help bring me back to that specific setting to feel what it would've been like to to be there.
I think this is a matter of taste. I certainly would be happy with the Cobb as is. Welll, maybe a little more detail to the background. Though I'm sure it will look spectacular, in all it's glory, when fully detailed.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
And Graig, we all have beheld a lot of beauty in this thread.

BTW, how did the final Old Pete come out?

Mark

MVSNYC
02-14-2010, 09:09 AM
graig- awesome work. not sure if you have explained this in the past, but i'd love to know what your process is? how do you take the images from the photos and transport them to the canvas? can you explain the pencil marks on the canvas and how you use them, etc, etc...truly great work.

GKreindler
02-14-2010, 11:50 PM
Jantz, it's interesting that you would say that. Normally, in traditional realistic/figurative painting, the artist usually attempts to draw the viewer's eyes to a certain area of the work. More often than not, said area will be more developed than the other areas, whether it's more refined, has a larger range of values, or has the most chromatic color. I guess in the Cobb painting, the eye goes to the most complete part - Cobb himself. The other stuff does indeed become secondary, and its representation becomes less important. In that regard, I'm free to be a little bit more liberal with edges, color contrasts and temperatures. It's really cool that both you and Mark are aware that that's how the brain can work. Honestly, that's something that I think a lot of artists miss out on. But, I guess that in the end, I could never purposely leave the painting 'unfinished' like that, as I'll always want to include as much visual information as possible. If nothing else, it's one of the only ways to satiate my OCD!!

Mark, I'm just so glad you guys are enjoying this stuff, no matter what state the art is in!! Ol' Pete is indeed complete. I'll have to post or send you a scan when I get home on Tuesday morning.

MVSNYC, regarding the drawings on the canvas, well, let's just say that it's a lot of comparing and fixing and comparing and fixing. I pretty much work on getting all of the proportions down with basic shapes, and then from there, get into small shapes. That's actually what you end up seeing in those little squiggly lines. It kind of ends up being a topographical map, as I end up thinking of the image in terms of light and dark shapes, rather than line. When doing realistic work, I find that it's important to have this kind of attitude to get the effects I want. I guess one of my main concerns ends up being whether the objects sit in a realistic space, and that's really done best when light is treated in such a way. Actually, that's just what works best for me, and certainly not the gospel. If you're interested in knowing anything more specific, drop me a line and I'll fill you in as much as possible!

Thanks again, fellas...

:)

MVSNYC
02-15-2010, 06:20 AM
thanks for your response! your talent & process is so fascinating! my dad is an abstract artist, so i have always had a love for art...my personal collection is mostly abstract expressionism, but i certainly admire and love photo realism as well. amazing work, my friend...so you do it all by eye, comparing photo to canvas, back to photo? there's no overlay or projected image on canvas, etc? truly remarkable! i'll PM you about some pricing.

PhilNap
02-15-2010, 09:14 PM
Hey Graig,

It facinates me how you break a large painting down to such minute detail right from the sketch stage with all those "squiggly lines". I guess thats what separates you from the rest. Being able to look at a photo and see all that detail and variation. I hope Dean gets around to video taping you. I'd love to see how exactly you fill in and paint around all that squigglyness.

BTW is that T206 Wagner done? Curious to see the finished product.

GKreindler
02-16-2010, 03:01 PM
Mark, here's Ol' Pete!!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Grover_Cleveland_Alexander_1928_Smi.jpg

Phil, Wagner isn't done yet. Actually, I have yet to touch it since I last posted. I had to put it aside for a bunch of other stuff, but will hopefully finish it up soon, as it only needs about another full day of work.

And the squiggly lines...well...let's just say I'm going insane. Or HAVE gone insane. It's at the point where I just see shapes and nothing else. Wait until you see your painting!!

:)

Lordstan
02-16-2010, 03:20 PM
Surprise...Shock...Awe...:eek:
As if I didn't know it would be magnificent.:rolleyes:
Another beauty.
I wish I had the money for them all.
Mark

bigtrain
02-18-2010, 01:58 PM
Graig,
Your work is magnificent. Just one question? Why is nothing hanging in the Hall of Fame? Wake up Cooperstown!

GKreindler
02-18-2010, 03:13 PM
Thanks Tom!! I would love to have something hanging in Cooperstown, but they're a few hurdles to jump over. Unfortunately, as you may or may not know, they NEVER buy anything, whether it's a painting or an artifact. They're always expected people to donate their stuff to the place, especially since they were pretty much founded under that very concept.

Under normal circumstances, I would be alright with such a thing (though ideally I would love to have the museum actually purchase something), but, if they did get a donated painting, they couldn't guarantee that it would stay in their permanent collection. What that means is that it can basically sit in a warehouse forever and never see the light of day, be sold at a fund-raising auction, or who knows?

I'll admit, it would be awesome to say that the Hall of Fame owns some of my work, but I think if there was any way that they could actually approach me and purchase something, or at least guarantee that the painting would stay in their permanent collection, I'd be MUCH more inclined...

Maybe one day...

bigtrain
02-18-2010, 04:53 PM
Graig,
I know they cannot promise that it will always be on display, but I am not aware of any fund-raising sales of donated artifacts. In fact, it is my understanding that the HOF artifacts once donated become the property of the State of New York. In the early 1980s, the Hall loaned some memorabilia to MLB and it ended up being sold by an employee in the Commissioner's office. When that became public, it created a public relations nightmare for the HOF that took years to die down. Obviously, folks do not want to donate artifacts if the HOF isn't going to keep them. I still hope to see your work in Cooperstown one day soon.

GKreindler
03-03-2010, 01:38 PM
Hey all,

I got a few messages about the progress of this guy, so I thought I'd post its progress.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Wagner-3.jpg

It's almost done, but the next parts will be the hardest. I have to clean up the type and the border line, and even worse, try to make my own moire pattern to mimic the printing process. I'm starting to think that it might be fun to paint a slab around it too...

Doing this has been a weird exercise. It's one thing to do a tromp l'oil, but doing one that has a single element with no background has been...well...odd. Though, it did make me think that it might be fun to paint some of the original Horner portraits as they would have looked in the studio. At least with that, I'd be dealing with real light and not have the limitations I've been dealing with in copying the lithographs from this set. Actually, to me, this card it just ends up being copying. But, I did have a lot of fun working on those edges!! But yeah, it would be very appealing to try and recreate a scene with actual lighting, even if it's controlled in a studio.

Anyway, I'm babbling. Any crits/comments/problems are certainly welcomed!

Oh, and as usual, forgive the photography!

Graig

thekingofclout
03-03-2010, 06:57 PM
How could a printed piece of hundred year old cardboard have more value than this masterpiece created from the hands of God?

GrayGhost
03-03-2010, 10:42 PM
How could a printed piece of hundred year old cardboard have more value than this masterpiece created from the hands of God?

It is a breathtaking looking work Graig, but KOC, "hands of God"? A bit extreme, don't cha think.?

thekingofclout
03-04-2010, 12:08 AM
It is a breathtaking looking work Graig, but KOC, "hands of God"? A bit extreme, don't cha think.?

I don't think you understood my meaning because I didn't use any of the "smiles" icons.

Since I do believe in God, and also believe that extraordinary talents like Graig possesses, are a "gift from God"... it was merely my way of expressing such.

I didn't realize that the Hall Monitor was going to "out" me for expressing my appreciation of Graig's talent.

Next time, I'll stick with the "breathtaking looking work" line that you just coined.

Go in peace...

GrayGhost
03-04-2010, 07:13 AM
Hey, sorry KOC. Obviously Graig's talent is incredible, and I love his work. I didnt mean there to be misunderstandings.

JasonL
03-04-2010, 10:11 AM
people get into fights over how best to heap accolades upon you! :D

GKreindler
03-04-2010, 10:40 AM
Whoa, whoa!!! Thanks for the words, guys!

It's all good though. I think that Jimmy knows better than anyone that if I were god, we'd all be in some serious trouble. And by 'serious trouble' I mean 'eating matzoh ball soup everyday'.

Actually, that wouldn't be so bad.

:p

thekingofclout
03-04-2010, 01:32 PM
Hey, sorry KOC. Obviously Graig's talent is incredible, and I love his work. I didnt mean there to be misunderstandings.

people get into fights over how best to heap accolades upon you! :D

Whoa, whoa!!! Thanks for the words, guys!

It's all good though. I think that Jimmy knows better than anyone that if I were god, we'd all be in some serious trouble. And by 'serious trouble' I mean 'eating matzoh ball soup everyday'.

Actually, that wouldn't be so bad.

:p

Thanks for your apology Scott. We're all good now.

And thanks to Jason for defusing the situation. However, I must say that I have never started a fight in my life, but I've finished 'em all.

And to our boy Graig... it's all your fault anyway ;)

JasonL
03-04-2010, 02:15 PM
Whoa, whoa!!! Thanks for the words, guys!

It's all good though. I think that Jimmy knows better than anyone that if I were god, we'd all be in some serious trouble. And by 'serious trouble' I mean 'eating matzoh ball soup everyday'.

Actually, that wouldn't be so bad.

:p

I do think that every day might be a little too, how shall we say?.....binding? :D:rolleyes:

GKreindler
03-04-2010, 08:57 PM
Oh, Jimmy. Isn't it ALWAYS my fault?? Well, that's what Dean tells me, at least.

And Jason, 'binding' is certainly a nice way of putting it. I find that if it's good enough, I'll go through the pain. To me, they're few things that are more comforting that a heaping bowl of the stuff. Add a corned beef sandwich and some kasha varnishkes and we're all set.

Oh man, I'm hungry now.

David Atkatz
03-04-2010, 09:46 PM
A day without matzoh ball soup is like a day without sunshine.

GKreindler
03-06-2010, 10:18 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself, David!

GKreindler
03-29-2010, 12:04 PM
Hey guys,

I finally got these back from the photographers (it's about time). I'm at the point where I've been looking at these for so long, I just can't even tell how I feel about them anymore. I've been color correcting them a little bit in Photoshop the past hour, and I think what I have is pretty close to the reality of the darn things, though they could probably benefit from some more tweaking.

Anywho, the first is based off of Conlon's famous photo of Joe Jackson from the Polo Grounds during the 1913 season. I felt like it was necessary to not keep the stands as blurry as Conlon's camera showed them to be, as that's the true sign of the painting being done from a photograph. So, what's there are the simple structures that appeared in the ballpark that year, most notably the front row (which at the time, was painted white, but would be replaced by white marble a few years later).

The second is of Honus Wagner lacing one into the outfield against the Chicago Cubs at the West Side Grounds. I'm a bit unsure as to what the exact date is, but I know it's sometime during the 1909 season. This one also had some tough issues with the stands, as I found out that when the place was remodeled in 1908, the grandstand (along with most of the other features of the ballpark) was painted red. Using that color and making it sit back enough behind Wagner was NOT easy. I hope I succeeded.

And last is the weird assignment, a scaled up version (5.5"x10") of the famous T206 Wagner card, specifically the SGC 40 that was brokered by Memory Lane last summer. There were a few tough things going on with this painting, one being the recreation of the moire pattern, which I could only suggest without driving myself absolutely bonkers. Also, trying to get that damn orange right also proved to be tough. After having the original card scanned, then sent to me, then printed out, you can imagine that there would be some color shifts in the whole process. And, now that you're all viewing it on different computer screens, it's probably still not right. But, hopefully the client is happy with how it looks in person!!

So, any crits/problems/tomatoes/comments/suggestions are appreciated. Always!!

Thanks,

Graig

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Joe_Jackson_1913.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Honus_Wagner_1909_WSG.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/WagnerCard2.jpg

David Atkatz
03-29-2010, 01:01 PM
...as usual, Graig.

Lordstan
03-29-2010, 01:20 PM
Graig,
Here goes:
To me painting the baseball card is a waste of your incredible talents. It becomes even more obvious when you compare to the other two. I guess we all have our customers to satisfy. To each his own I guess. You did a very nice job though.

The Wagner...I just can't imagine it looked any better on the day it happened. The color really makes these images come alive. They seem less like memories of bygone days and more like real events.

The Jackson....Spectacular!!!!!!!!
The glove and pants look like real leather and fabric, respectively. The hands are so lifelike. The intensity of the face is fantastic. It is just an amazing painting. Certainly close to the Mathewson.
Pardon me a sec...I have to get a thesaurus so I don't keep repeating the same superlatives about your work.

Mark

GKreindler
03-29-2010, 10:16 PM
Thanks, David!!

Mark, I'm so glad you dig the first two, as I'm not as happy with these photographs as I normally am. But it's good to know they still look alright. Now, I just have to completely believe that!

In regards to the Wagner piece, well it's interesting that you say that. It's definitely not something that I would ever really pick to paint. I mean, the card is iconic and all, but to me, just trying to replicate that is really boring (just don't tell that to the client). I would be MUCH more excited if I was trying to bring to life Horner's actual photo, even down to some colored background. I feel like it would be cool to try and paint Wagner (and the rest of them) in that kind of studio environment. Even though the north light that was probably used in them might not be incredibly exciting, it's still light. To me, that stuff gets completely lost in the card lithograph. Not that the lithograph is bad by any means, but I'm sure you understand.

I think in the end though, you're right, it's not the kind of thing I would normally do. I'm still debating whether I'll even have it up on my website!

Thanks so much for chiming in, I really appreciate it.

JasonL
03-31-2010, 10:16 AM
With that T206 Wagner commission?? Oh this would have made for SUCH a cool piece!

Paint Honus posing in the artist's studio for the portrait that was used to make the card. Now, while the original was a Horner cabinet (is that right?), wouldn't that be a fun piece, to re-create a scene where the T206 card was being painted, and Honus himself was sitting for the work in the studio? That way you could have taken license with the rest of his body and clothing as he sat there, as well as re-created what an artist's studio might have looked like at the time!
It would be like taking a picture of the scene when the card was created.
Well, maybe that's a little corny or folksy, but you could probably have some fun with that. could probably apply that concept to some other baseball scnes of the past century as well...might require some thought, though.

excellent work, once again, by the way. and thank you again for continuing to share these and your thoughts with us...

GKreindler
03-31-2010, 10:24 AM
Jason,

I agree with you 199%. 1999% even. I actually brought that up to the client when he approached me, but he didn't seem interested. For whatever reason, I guess he had some money and just wanted to have somewhat of a companion piece to his friend's (who bought the SGC 4), as he couldn't afford the $925,000 for another one.

But what you bring up is actually what I plan on doing. I really like the idea of doing the original photos used for cards, especially that Horner portrait. Painting the actual scene of Honus sitting there having his photo taken is MUCH more appealing than painting the card itself. I know that I'll also do a painting of the image used for the '52 Topps Mantle and treat it the same way. It's cool to take those iconic images and paint them as they were seen with human eyes, not through a camera, or on a card. Now, I just need to find the time to do all of this stuff!!

Either way, thanks for the input, as well as the compliments. I'm just so glad that people don't yell at me for wasting space on the board! I'll keep posting as long as you will keep enjoying it. Which I hope you will.

Graig

whitehse
03-31-2010, 08:50 PM
Jason,

I agree with you 199%. 1999% even. I actually brought that up to the client when he approached me, but he didn't seem interested. For whatever reason, I guess he had some money and just wanted to have somewhat of a companion piece to his friend's (who bought the SGC 4), as he couldn't afford the $925,000 for another one.

But what you bring up is actually what I plan on doing. I really like the idea of doing the original photos used for cards, especially that Horner portrait. Painting the actual scene of Honus sitting there having his photo taken is MUCH more appealing than painting the card itself. I know that I'll also do a painting of the image used for the '52 Topps Mantle and treat it the same way. It's cool to take those iconic images and paint them as they were seen with human eyes, not through a camera, or on a card. Now, I just need to find the time to do all of this stuff!!

Either way, thanks for the input, as well as the compliments. I'm just so glad that people don't yell at me for wasting space on the board! I'll keep posting as long as you will keep enjoying it. Which I hope you will.

Graig
Wasting space???? Are you kidding me?????

GrayGhost
04-01-2010, 10:29 AM
Graig's work is exemplary and incredible, and he certainly isn't wasting space. Honestly tho, the comments about criticisms and I hope I'm doing the picture Justice do get a bit old.

I mean, I know there's being modest, but lets not get crazy. An Incredible talent is just that.

milkit1
04-01-2010, 11:42 AM
so um...when you gonna do some affordable wee little paintings for us cheapskates? :)

milkit1
04-01-2010, 11:44 AM
seriously though I think you are my official fave baseball painter. There are a few other good painters out there but yours seems to lack pretentiousness which seems to be quite a hard thing to accomplish. I can actually look real quick at one of your paintings and for a second make myself think its a real picture. Keep up the good work!

GKreindler
04-01-2010, 01:52 PM
Thanks for those nice words, milkit1. I'm hoping to have some smaller things for sale in the future, though I just don't know when. I'm pretty backed up on commissions so there's not much time lately to do stuff for the inventory. Every now and then though, I'll start something small to have a nice break from whatever I'm painting, and can come back to it for a couple of hours every so often. And I promise, one day it will be a Hal Chase!

milkit1
04-02-2010, 07:04 AM
yay! Price Hal will live again. i wonder if you can show him fake playing in a painting :)

JasonL
04-02-2010, 08:56 AM
to depict him standing over by the bleachers, taking money from some gangster, with his glove sticking out his back pocket, and holding a bat on his shoulder with the other hand...:rolleyes:

or

awaiting a throw at first from one of his infielders, deliberately standing a few inches off the bag, while several bills are seen poking out his back pocket...:p

terjung
04-02-2010, 07:46 PM
Downright stupified. That Wagner batting absolutely jumps off the canvas. If Honus doesn't look 3D like he's ready to jump out of that picture, I'll eat my hat. You, sir, do phenominal work. If I had a place worthy of your artwork, you would most certainly be commisioned. Fantastic work. Thank you so much for sharing.

milkit1
04-04-2010, 07:36 AM
nice!

I was thinking a close up shot of Hal. Have reflection in his eyes. on one side he's making a great catch, on the other eye, he's missing the ball. I love pretentious ideas! lol

GKreindler
04-08-2010, 11:38 AM
Hey guys,

Here's what's on the easel right now. And though it's not baseball, I thought y'all might dig it anyways. It's still in progress, and at 40" x 56", there's been a lot of surface area to work with.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/BobbyJones.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/BobbyJones2.jpg

The scene depicts Bobby Jones teeing off at the 17th hole at St. Andrews during the 1927 British Open. To his left (also in front of the crowd) is his partner Mark Seymour. As he did the year prior, Jones would go on to win the British championship that day (July 16) with a total of 285.

It was commissioned by Golf Links to the Past, a store at the Lodge at Pebble Beach, where the Open will be in a little over two months. It's been a bit of a challenge, since they're so many figures for one, and, I've never done a golf painting before. And of course, there's a pretty strict deadline on the painting, and I only have a few more weeks to finish it.

Also, I don't know if any of you guys are on Facebook or anything, but as a bit of shameless promotion, become a fan of me!! That is, if you actually are.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Graig-Kreindler/78640599933?ref=ts

Thanks everyone!

Graig

Forever Young
04-08-2010, 11:45 AM
Hey guys,

Here's what's on the easel right now. And though it's not baseball, I thought y'all might dig it anyways. It's still in progress, and at 40" x 56", there's been a lot of surface area to work with.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/BobbyJones.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/BobbyJones2.jpg

The scene depicts Bobby Jones teeing off at the 17th hole at St. Andrews during the 1927 British Open. To his left (also in front of the crowd) is his partner Mark Seymour. As he did the year prior, Jones would go on to win the British championship that day (July 16) with a total of 285.

It was commissioned by Golf Links to the Past, a store at the Lodge at Pebble Beach, where the Open will be in a little over two months. It's been a bit of a challenge, since they're so many figures for one, and, I've never done a golf painting before. And of course, there's a pretty strict deadline on the painting, and I only have a few more weeks to finish it.

Also, I don't know if any of you guys are on Facebook or anything, but as a bit of shameless promotion, become a fan of me!! That is, if you actually are.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Graig-Kreindler/78640599933?ref=ts

Thanks everyone!

Graig

Sweet Graig!

timzcardz
04-10-2010, 09:23 AM
Jason,


But what you bring up is actually what I plan on doing. I really like the idea of doing the original photos used for cards, especially that Horner portrait. Painting the actual scene of Honus sitting there having his photo taken is MUCH more appealing than painting the card itself.

FYI, Here is one artist's interpretation of that scene.

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=14429

tiger8mush
04-13-2010, 08:06 PM
Graig, terrific work! If (and I just may!) I printed a color picture of the scans u've put up in this thread, they'd look better than any other sports photo or card that i own! Especially the matty, jackson, and wagner batter. They are truly amazing!

Keep the scans coming, very enjoyable!

Rob
:)

GKreindler
04-13-2010, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the compliments, Rob! I'm glad you're enjoying the work!! Now, if I can only get the paintings to rise in price like the original cards of the guys you just mentioned.

:)

GKreindler
04-27-2010, 05:24 PM
Hey all,

I've been working on this Gehrig piece a bit, and it's almost there. The surface is a little bit smoother than I normally like, so the paint is handling itself a little differently than what I'm used to, but I think I'm starting to pull it out.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Gehrig1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Gehrig2.jpg

I'm starting to think that a whole series on Gehrig's day at Briggs might be just as powerful as one from his farewell day. Actually, I'm sure I'll end up doing all of them anyways. That is, when I get the time.

I'll be getting the Bobby Jones painting professionally shot later this week, so I'm hoping to have that posted soon as well. From then on, more commissions, including some for fellow board members.

Hope y'all dig!

Graig

Forever Young
04-27-2010, 05:28 PM
Hey all,

I've been working on this Gehrig piece a bit, and it's almost there. The surface is a little bit smoother than I normally like, so the paint is handling itself a little differently than what I'm used to, but I think I'm starting to pull it out.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Gehrig1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Gehrig2.jpg

I'm starting to think that a whole series on Gehrig's day at Briggs might be just as powerful as one from his farewell day. Actually, I'm sure I'll end up doing all of them anyways. That is, when I get the time.

I'll be getting the Bobby Jones painting professionally shot later this week, so I'm hoping to have that posted soon as well. From then on, more commissions, including some for fellow board members.

Hope y'all dig!

Graig
----------------------
WOW dude....this is going to be a good one....

timzcardz
04-28-2010, 11:07 AM
I am in awe every time I check this thread out.

I know the web can't possibly do these justice, and I can't even imagine how impressive these must be seeing them in person.

Please keep sharing your work here. It is truly appreciated.

Thank you.

Beatles Guy
04-28-2010, 11:45 AM
Your work is amazing. As one poster said previously, it looks like I could crawl into the painting with the subject.

GKreindler
04-28-2010, 09:25 PM
Thanks for the wonderful compliments, guys. I'll certainly keep posting, as long as you keep enjoying, or something...

The below painting is one that I started last summer, and abandoned for some time to make room for other projects. It depicts Bob Feller moments after throwing a one-hitter (the seventh of his career - tying Addie Joss) against Boston on July 31, 1946. He's seen shaking the hand of first-sacker Heinz Becker, as they're approached by catcher Jim Hegan. The game took place in old League Park, which has been an absolute b*tch to research!!

Anywho, the photographs really suck, so pardon their quality. There was a little tilt in the canvas, so that I wasn't contending with any hot-spots. Either way, I hope y'all dig it!! And of course, any critiques are more than welcome.

Graig

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Feller.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Feller2.jpg

Heritage Sports
05-07-2010, 04:28 PM
It's funny that the last post mentions Addie Joss because I think the famous panoramic of the Joss benefit game would make an incredible painting (though it would be an ENORMOUS amount of work). But it's got everything--the crazy cast of characters (Young, Jackson, Johnson, Baker, Cobb, etc.), the great expressions, dirty uniforms, and the super-funky warping of perspective that came from how they shot panoramics (in a semicircle around the rotating camera). Plus I'd love to see the image in color...

http://sports.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=703&Lot_No=19707

Can't think of anyone who could do more justice to it than you either, Greg. Fantastic work!

Heritage Sports
05-07-2010, 04:29 PM
Sorry, I meant Graig! Spelling was never my strong suit...

Lordstan
05-07-2010, 04:57 PM
Jonathan,
WOW!
I agree that would make an awesome painting.
Graig would probably just have to take a couple of months off from work to do it. No sweat:D
Damn it would be sweet though.

Mark

GKreindler
05-07-2010, 10:31 PM
No worries on the spelling, Jonathan!

That photo is killer. I can't even imagine what it would have to translate to when it would make its way to a canvas. With those dimensions, putting it to a vertical size I would like, the final proportions would be somewhere in the 30"x154" range. That's one big wall.

But in all seriousness, it would be a pretty darn cool image to attempt. The amount of information in the stands and all is just as amazing as the characters on the field. I've always loved how Cobb looked in that borrowed Cleveland uniform, too.

They're some other really nice photos of this day, including a team shot of the All-Stars, and some action stuff from the game. The latter pieces I've seen in an old Hunt Auction if I remember correctly. I'd love to get my hands on hi-res scans of those!!

GKreindler
05-17-2010, 09:09 AM
Hey guys,

I'll have some work to post later today if all goes according to plan with the mail, but in the meantime, check this out if you're interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njurj5OcQgM

And 'yes', I am that short. Ben, Jimmy, and Todd can vouch.

Graig

GrayGhost
05-17-2010, 09:25 AM
Nice story and video!

Lordstan
05-17-2010, 09:27 AM
Dude,
That was awesome. After so many emails, posts, etc it's nice to hear the voice behind it.
Next up the "Kreindler Method of Painting". Think Bob Ross with happy little fans.:D

Mark

Scott Garner
05-17-2010, 10:13 AM
Hey guys,

I'll have some work to post later today if all goes according to plan with the mail, but in the meantime, check this out if you're interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njurj5OcQgM

And 'yes', I am that short. Ben, Jimmy, and Todd can vouch.

Graig

Hi Graig,
Great YouTube interview! Thanks for providing the link for us to check out...
I noticed that your Ernie Banks painting graces the current cover of the SCD.
Nice!!

GKreindler
05-17-2010, 02:51 PM
Thanks for the kind words, guys! What's weird is that my voice was a little deeper in this video than in real life, and I guess they didn't air all of my self-deprecating comments. Which is probably a good thing. Reality television has yet to rear its ugly head into the studio.

And god help us all if they provide me with a forum to teach painting. I suppose I could include 'happy little pinstripes', 'friendly little Gem Razor Blade signs', and 'naughty little Conlons'...or something...how many people would actually watch it, though?

By the way, how do the paintings look in SCD? A fellow board member told me about the issue a few days ago, and I didn't have any idea that T.S. O'Connell was using them - not that mind!

milkit1
05-17-2010, 05:09 PM
very cool! still waiting on affordable card sized paintings :)

GKreindler
05-17-2010, 08:00 PM
Thanks, Sean!!

Here's that darn Bobby Jones painting that took forever. Here hes teeing off at the 17th on the Old Course at St. Andrews. The date is July 16, 1927, and it's the final round of the British Open, which he would ultimately win with a score of 285.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/bobby.jpg

It was a commission for Golf Links of the Past (http://www.golfspast.com/), as they will have it on display when the PGA starts at Pebble Beach in a couple of weeks. I would imagine that they're going to gouge the price, but I guess that's what happens in the gallery market.

Anywho, hope you guys dig it!

Graig

David Atkatz
05-17-2010, 09:24 PM
Graig, your representations of light are just amazing.

(You wouldn't be channeling Rembrandt just a bit, would you?)

thekingofclout
05-17-2010, 09:47 PM
Graig, your representations of light are just amazing.

(You wouldn't be channeling Rembrandt just a bit, would you?)

Well said David. I'm just running out ways to describe how much your work moves me, Graig.

GKreindler
05-17-2010, 10:27 PM
Thanks so much, David. That's really the most important thing to me (well, that and the research). I just want these paintings to have breathable air and real light. Rembrandt was certainly a master of that, and I definitely put him on a high pedestal.

And Jimmy, as per usual, you're too kind. You are talking about bowel movements, right? :p

thekingofclout
05-17-2010, 10:37 PM
And Jimmy, as per usual, you're too kind. You are talking about bowel movements, right? :p

You're right again Graig. Your paintings are so good, they make me shit myself :eek:

Lordstan
05-18-2010, 06:44 AM
Jimmy,
Now thats a really crappy comment.:rolleyes:

Graig,
I have to agree with Jimmy. You have posted so many incredible things, I feel like I'm repeating myself every time I compliment your work.
Your stuff is just incredible.

Mark

GrayGhost
05-18-2010, 06:53 AM
These paintings are amazing, but man, even Graig must be embarrassed by the constant praise..

thekingofclout
05-18-2010, 07:20 AM
These paintings are amazing, but man, even Graig must be embarrassed by the constant praise..

I'm sorry to say Scott, but that is a ridiculous comment.

Forever Young
05-18-2010, 07:34 AM
Graig, what the heck is that guy doing in the upper right at close to a 45 degree angle?? Unrealistic...YOU SUCK!
Your friend,
Ben

PS: THE SHADOWS ARE TOO REAL!

Lordstan
05-18-2010, 08:08 AM
Graig,
Here is question I wonder about.
How to you choose your skin tones?
What I mean is that for many of the early players there are no true color pictures to reference. For instance, I can't remember seeing a whole lot of color pics of Gehrig. I think I've seen some of Cobb, Ruth, and Wagner, usually as very old men. Perhaps there is something in the black and white shading that tips you off? Another idea is that you use the colorized cards and pictures as a base. Or do you just keep them sort of neutral skin tone with light and shadow control doing the rest?

Just wondering.

I just love this thread. Such beautiful things to appreciate.

Scott,
I get your meaning. I think, beside just talent alone, it's Graig's humbleness about his talent that really set him apart. Praise is a good thing, especially when deserved.

Just promise me, Graig, that when you become a rich and famous painter, that you'll still talk to us non creative types. ;) "We're not worthy!"

Mark

GKreindler
05-18-2010, 01:38 PM
Thanks for all of the wonderful comments, guys (except from you Ben, I hate you ;p ). I honestly do appreciate all of the encouraging things you all say, and I never really get sick of it. I mean, I will admit, it always feels a little weird when someone likes what I do (especially for an artist who deep down thinks he's a fraud), but it's the stuff like that that keeps us creative types from slacking. Or at least, I think it does. There's always been a big perfectionist in me that just needs these paintings to be perfect every time. And in my eyes, they never are. I guess that's why I keep pushing myself. I imagine it's something I'll go through the rest of my life. I guess that's why I freak out so much about the color of a button, an advertisement, a weather forecast, and all of the other intangible stuff. If the viewer enjoys the painting and it brings back great memories, then that's a good thing. But if I can bring them back and really make them feel what's going on in the painting - the sun shining, the crack of the bat, the chatter of the stadium crowd, etc. - then that's just gold.

Now Mark, you raise a good question. There's a lot that goes into it, from both an artistic side and a historical side. The latter is where I start. There have been some color photos/film of those old guys, usually dating back to the late 1930s. It's definitely few and far between, but it's super important. Combine that with a lot of book reading and hypothesizing, I'm able to come up with my base color. Now, that will always vary. Joe DiMaggio had an olive skin tone, while I've read some accounts that Gehrig would sometimes appear to be as dark as an African American. Someone like Red Rolfe would have fairer, pale skin to match his hair. Babe Ruth had a pretty normal, borderline tan complexion throughout his playing career, but when he retired and started playing golf regularly, his skin was almost milk chocolaty. I've actually made a list of player's attributes, stuff that I may have learned from books, seen in films, or have even read on driver's licenses. So, whenever I find something like a hair color, eye color or skin tone reference, it always finds its way into my reference. It's the kind of stuff that's really trivial and means nothing to most, but to me, it's gold!

Then artistically, it comes down to knowing that certain areas of a face will have certain variations that are common in most, like having the cheek and nose area be a little deeper and rosier in color, while the chin and jawline become rather neutral as they turn in space. If you notice, people with really dark hair sometimes have stubble that comes in very dark and can sometimes seem to make their jaw almost blue. Sandy Koufax was definitely like that.

More important than all of that though comes down to light. Light is what really shapes everything around us, why things look the way they do. You might notice that bright light shining on someone's face will create a larger difference between light planes and dark planes. The shadows will be more crisp, and will contain more reflected light bouncing into them. And depending on whether the sky is completely clear or not, that will affect the modulation of color temperature.a On a completely overcast day, you'll have deeper, earthier tones. Usually shadows will be warmer in temperature, while light planes will usually be cooler, as they're going to reflect a lot of the tones in the sky. You can see that sort of stuff in the Mathewson painting I did, especially in the nose, cheek, and forehead areas. You'll also notice that the separation between light and shade is much less dramatic than when the subject is in direct sunlight, so the shadows will have more of a 'fuzzy' look to them.

...

I just realized that this stuff might sound like Greek. But hopefully some of it makes sense.

Honestly, there's no set formula for any of this stuff, whether it's a skin tone, a sky color, or edge quality of a form, it all comes from observing real life. Then the hard part is taking all of that knowledge and observation and trying to make something look 3-dimensional on a 2-dimensional surface.

Phew!! I'm done. Sorry for the rant.

Oh, and don't worry, I don't think I'll ever be rich or famous. Either way, you guys are the people I love talking to. It's just wonderful that there's a forum for people to converse about such passions. One of mine is matzoh ball soup - I don't talk much about that here. But the other is baseball.

terjung
05-18-2010, 01:51 PM
Wow. Just reading that Graig makes me realize that how little I know about painting. Amazing to hear your descriptions of shadows and facial toning as it relates to the weather. So much goes into your work that I can't even imagine it. No wonder they all look so realistic and as if they could walk right off the canvas. You have an amazing gift and talent! Thank you so much for letting us have a glimse into your world!

Forever Young
05-18-2010, 01:57 PM
Here we go....fishing for more compliments......HATE is such a weak word.

Thanks for all of the wonderful comments, guys (except from you Ben, I hate you). I honestly do appreciate all of the encouraging things you all say, and I never really get sick of it. I mean, I will admit, it always feels a little weird when someone likes what I do (especially for an artist who deep down thinks he's a fraud), but it's the stuff like that that keeps us creative types from slacking. Or at least, I think it does. There's always been a big perfectionist in me that just needs these paintings to be perfect every time. And in my eyes, they never are. I guess that's why I keep pushing myself. I imagine it's something I'll go through the rest of my life. I guess that's why I freak out so much about the color of a button, an advertisement, a weather forecast, and all of the other intangible stuff. If the viewer enjoys the painting and it brings back great memories, then that's a good thing. But if I can bring them back and really make them feel what's going on in the painting - the sun shining, the crack of the bat, the chatter of the stadium crowd, etc. - then that's just gold.

Now Mark, you raise a good question. There's a lot that goes into it, from both an artistic side and a historical side. The latter is where I start. There have been some color photos/film of those old guys, usually dating back to the late 1930s. It's definitely few and far between, but it's super important. Combine that with a lot of book reading and hypothesizing, I'm able to come up with my base color. Now, that will always vary. Joe DiMaggio had an olive skin tone, while I've read some accounts that Gehrig would sometimes appear to be as dark as an African American. Someone like Red Rolfe would have fairer, pale skin to match his hair. Babe Ruth had a pretty normal, borderline tan complexion throughout his playing career, but when he retired and started playing golf regularly, his skin was almost milk chocolaty. I've actually made a list of player's attributes, stuff that I may have learned from books, seen in films, or have even read on driver's licenses. So, whenever I find something like a hair color, eye color or skin tone reference, it always finds its way into my reference. It's the kind of stuff that's really trivial and means nothing to most, but to me, it's gold!

Then artistically, it comes down to knowing that certain areas of a face will have certain variations that are common in most, like having the cheek and nose area be a little deeper and rosier in color, while the chin and jawline become rather neutral as they turn in space. If you notice, people with really dark hair sometimes have stubble that comes in very dark and can sometimes seem to make their jaw almost blue. Sandy Koufax was definitely like that.

More important than all of that though comes down to light. Light is what really shapes everything around us, why things look the way they do. You might notice that bright light shining on someone's face will create a larger difference between light planes and dark planes. The shadows will be more crisp, and will contain more reflected light bouncing into them. And depending on whether the sky is completely clear or not, that will affect the modulation of color temperature.a On a completely overcast day, you'll have deeper, earthier tones. Usually shadows will be warmer in temperature, while light planes will usually be cooler, as they're going to reflect a lot of the tones in the sky. You can see that sort of stuff in the Mathewson painting I did, especially in the nose, cheek, and forehead areas. You'll also notice that the separation between light and shade is much less dramatic than when the subject is in direct sunlight, so the shadows will have more of a 'fuzzy' look to them.

...

I just realized that this stuff might sound like Greek. But hopefully some of it makes sense.

Honestly, there's no set formula for any of this stuff, whether it's a skin tone, a sky color, or edge quality of a form, it all comes from observing real life. Then the hard part is taking all of that knowledge and observation and trying to make something look 3-dimensional on a 2-dimensional surface.

Phew!! I'm done. Sorry for the rant.

Oh, and don't worry, I don't think I'll ever be rich or famous. Either way, you guys are the people I love talking to. It's just wonderful that there's a forum for people to converse about such passions. One of mine is matzoh ball soup - I don't talk much about that here. But the other is baseball.

GrayGhost
05-18-2010, 02:10 PM
I had Matzoh ball soup once, and the best Creamy Tomato Basil extant last night..haha. :):)

yanks12025
05-18-2010, 02:39 PM
Graig,
How long does it take you to just draw the photos out.

GKreindler
05-18-2010, 03:33 PM
Brian, thank you SO much. You're always welcome in!

Brock, it really varies with the sizes and complexities and all. The smaller portrait shots are only a few hours, but as we get larger and larger, they can take up to a week to get just right. And that can even be with gridding it all off. It's actually my least favorite part of the process, as I just want to get to the painting!

Lordstan
05-18-2010, 03:37 PM
Graig,
I figured your answer would be something like that.
Though I do agree with terjung, you see things in a different way than the rest of us. Or perhaps it's just that you can put to words why people feel they way they do about specific works of paintings.
I think most of us don't specifically identify light/shade as the reason we like a painting. Most just say it looks realistic or use some other adjective without identfying that the control of light is the reason it looks the way it does.

Again, great stuff buddy.

Ben,
Cut Graig some slack, after all he is a painter, not a writer.
Perhaps he could loathe you....Is that better?

Mark

perezfan
05-18-2010, 08:48 PM
I'm still waiting to hear why that little guy in the upper-right is leaning at a 45 degree angle. I keep reading and reading (and there's no explanation) :mad:

Graig, please clarify and try to put more effort into your replies.

Just kidding of course... this is the greatest thread in the whole forum, IMO and you can add me to the list of awe-struck admirers. Thanks so much for your incredibly insightful responses and for sharing your amazingly beautiful work!

Kawika
05-18-2010, 10:12 PM
Graig, what the heck is that guy doing in the upper right at close to a 45 degree angle??
It is Tiger Woods fleeing a horde of enraged bloggers.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/bobby.jpg

GKreindler
05-18-2010, 10:51 PM
:D :D

The word 'succinct' is not in my vocabulary!!

I'm pretty sure that the guy in the right hand corner is pulling at some sort of barrier, perhaps a rope or something. I know it's hard to tell in the scan I provided, but that crowd in the foreground is actually being held back by a similar rope. For some reason, I haven't been able to upload anything to Photobucket for a few days, so I can't show a detail right now. Once I figure it out, I'll post a bigger shot.

Though, I do like that banner, David - who knew that Bobby Jones was a pimp?!

And Mark, that's kind of what it comes down to. It's weird that I see the world in the way that I do. Well, maybe not weird, but you know what I mean. I just can't not dissect every bit of information I have in front of me. And I know that most of it comes from going to art school and all, especially considering the teachers I had there. But yeah, it just seems like I'm always drawn to the way light falls on things. And that doesn't have to be bright light or anything, but just the concept of it in general.

I guess that's why I paint the way I paint. Someone like Ron Stark might paint the way he paints for a completely different reason, and the same goes for Purdom, Neiman and the like. And by no means is that a bad thing, it's just that different things inspire us to create what we do. I think that's really the true meaning of the word 'style' when it comes to painting. It's not necessarily what school of rules you follow, it's what inspires you to get up and paint in the first place.

Alright, I'm really shutting up now. Succinct! Succinct! Succinct!!

whitehse
05-18-2010, 10:59 PM
Graig....Will you be at the national in Baltimore this year???

GKreindler
05-18-2010, 11:08 PM
Hey Andrew! I will be at the National this year, though I won't have a booth. I plan on going for the majority of it to look around. And of course, hang out with some good people.

But yeah, I wasn't able to do much for inventory this year, as I've been super backed up with commissions. But, we are shooting for next year, I think. The only event happening in the near future (that I'm aware of) is a talk I'll be giving at the Norman Rockwell Museum in Stockbridge, MA over July 4th weekend.

whitehse
05-20-2010, 11:26 AM
Thats too bad. I was looking forward to seeing your work at the National up close. Well I guess thats something I have to look forward to at the next National which will be in Chicago I believe. Since that is my hometown I will make sure I make that one!!

Keep up the great work!! You do amazing stuff!

GKreindler
05-20-2010, 11:37 AM
Thanks for the compliments, Andrew! I'm sorry we're not setting up shop there this year, as I really enjoyed the experience in Cleveland. I might actually have a painting or two to drop off with clients at the show though, so you're most likely welcome to see those if they make the trip to Baltimore.

And really, if next years show is in Chicago, I couldn't see us not being there. Out of all of the cities they've had it in, Chi-town has to have one of the richest art cultures, something that my agent can't say 'no' to. He's definitely been to hundreds of art expos and conventions there over the years, and he's had nothing but wonderful things to say about it.

tiger8mush
06-26-2010, 12:36 PM
Graig, how about an update!

Also, by any chance, will you be 1) attending the National (Baltimore, in August) and 2) bringing any pieces w/u to the National?

Rob
:)

whitehse
06-26-2010, 06:42 PM
Graig, how about an update!

Also, by any chance, will you be 1) attending the National (Baltimore, in August) and 2) bringing any pieces w/u to the National?

Rob
:)

See my question above and his response. I am disappointed that he wont be at the national this year!

GKreindler
06-28-2010, 03:14 PM
Hey Rob,

Thanks for the shout-out!

I just got these two back from the photographer. The first image is of Bob Feller after pitching a one-hitter against the Red Sox on July 31, 1946. That one measures 28" x 30".

The second image should be pretty familiar, I hope. It measures at 22" x 28".

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Bob_Feller_1946_July_31_One-Hitter.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Lou_Gehrig_1939_May_2_Dugout.jpg

I have another painting that should be coming back soon too, as well as a few works in progress. Aside from starting some of the commissions for board members, I have these going on - and as usual, please excuse the poor photography:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DSCN2722.jpg

Jackie stealing home against the Phillies, July 2, 1950. It's got a long ways to go, but it's starting to get there! It's a nice size at 24" x 32", and if some of you remember, was in progress at the National last year.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DSCN2727.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DSCN2728.jpg

Ty Cobb batting against the White Sox on Opening Day, April 14, 1908 in Chicago's South Side Grounds. Cobb went 3-5 with a homer, but the Sox ended up with the victory. This bad boy's going to worked on a lot this week, and at 40" x 62", is quite the undertaking.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DSCN2723.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DSCN2724.jpg

At 30" x 70", this is Mickey Mantle during a mid September game of his rookie year. Facing Feller and the Indians on that September 16 contest, the Yanks came up on top and took over first place for good.

Regarding the National, I won't be there exhibiting this year unfortunately. However, I do know that Dean has plans to work something out for the Chicago version next year, which I think will be another wonderful opportunity. Man, I just had so much fun last year.

Though, I will actually be in attendance at the National on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, but only as a spectator. I'm really hoping that I can purchase some nice photos for future paintings and basically look around a lot (I feel like I didn't really get the chance last year). I know that I already have plans to meet up with some of you again, so I'm super stoked!!! I may bring a painting or two down there, but I don't even know if it would make it past the hotel doors. I guess it all depends on what I can fit into the car, and what people actually want to see. I guess if you're dying to see something in person, let me know and we'll see if I can work it out.

This weekend, if you guys are in the Massachusetts area, I'll be giving a talk at the Norman Rockwell Museum in Stockbridge on Saturday. It's their annual celebration of the National game and they've been kind enough to give me some time to make a fool of myself. So, if you want to come on by, bring some tomatoes!

Hope y'all dig it!

Graig

Kawika
06-28-2010, 04:39 PM
Graig: You are not human.

Jay Wolt
06-28-2010, 04:46 PM
Fantastic! You are gifted

GKreindler
06-28-2010, 05:42 PM
Thanks, guys.

And David, if I'm not human, why couldn't I have been made taller??

:)

Kawika
06-28-2010, 05:53 PM
Graig: Being tall is not all it's cracked up to be.
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanychorusgirls/websize/GiantandMidget.jpg

JasonL
06-28-2010, 07:57 PM
of the three is you again?
:D

PS - very nice work, Graig, as usual.

Forever Young
06-28-2010, 09:07 PM
Graig,
What is it with you? Can't you just tip your cap and say thank you?
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad320/weino23/GaedelEddie.jpg

Thanks, guys.

And David, if I'm not human, why couldn't I have been made taller??

:)

GKreindler
06-28-2010, 11:05 PM
:D

GKreindler
07-02-2010, 10:07 AM
Hey all,

Just wanted to wish y'all a happy 4th, as I'll be in Stockbridge, MA for the Norman Rockwell thing.

If any of you happen to be in the area on Saturday and want to check it out, you can get more info here:

http://www.nrm.org/2010/06/play-ball-an-all-american-festival/

I'll be going on at around 2 PM, I think.

Either way, everyone stay safe this weekend!

Graig

milkit1
07-02-2010, 04:42 PM
post the cobb pic AS SOON AS YOUR DONE. thats great! If I wasnt such a cheapskate Id buy that in a second :)

GKreindler
07-14-2010, 08:02 PM
Hey guys!!

Check out this cool baseball art article from MLB.com, which I'm lucky enough to be featured in.

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100714&content_id=12249038&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

What's interesting is that under the first gallery, my work comes right after Rockwell's in the pecking order. Whoa. Now that's humbling.

Also, jut got this guy back from the photographers - my father's birthday present. Always the Mantle fan, I figured it was the perfect image for him.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/JUNE20103225.jpg

Thanks for looking!

Graig

magic1313
07-14-2010, 08:15 PM
Your work is truly impressive. I wish I was able to afford it.

Do you have a book of your various work. I certainly would be interested in a coffee table book.

GKreindler
07-15-2010, 10:12 AM
Thanks for the compliments, Magic1313!

I don't have a book of my work yet, though I know my agent has been in talks with various publishers in the hopes that we can get something going at some point. In the end, I might just need to keep painting to get as many images done as possible.

Though, when I get anymore information, you guys will definitely be some of the first to know!

jacksons
07-15-2010, 11:21 AM
Graig - congrats on your inclusion in the slideshow!

I've included a screenshot for everyone else.

Can't say that I'm surprised, though!

P.S. - would love to see the look on your father's face when he opens that one - truly one of your best, Graig. Just awesome!

thekingofclout
07-18-2010, 07:27 AM
Hey guys!!

Check out this cool baseball art article from MLB.com, which I'm lucky enough to be featured in.

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100714&content_id=12249038&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb


"Luck" had nothing to do with it Graig.

GKreindler
07-18-2010, 03:37 PM
Oh, Jimmy...

And thanks so much for posting that screen-cap, Jacksons!

GKreindler
08-03-2010, 07:28 PM
Hey all,

Just wanted to let you know that I'll be at the National on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, if anyone wants to meet up. I'm bringing down two works in progress, one of which is for a client - Ben (ForeverYoung). The paintings will probably spend most of their time in the hotel, but if anyone wants me to show 'em, let me know. Either way, I'm sure we'll all be hanging out a bit down there, so it would be wonderful to meet some other Net54ers.

PM me if you want to get in touch...

Graig

GKreindler
08-26-2010, 04:04 PM
Hey all,

Here's the latest!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Ty_Cobb_1908_April_14.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Ty_Cobb_1908_April_142.jpg

The painting illustrates Ty Cobb on April 14, 1908 - Opening Day. The Tigers were in Chicago that hazy and oddly warm afternoon, and though they lost to the locals 15-8, Cobb went 3-5 - one of his hits being a homer (the depicted) into the right field bleachers, which was certainly a rarity at the South Side Park. Obviously a good start for the Georgian, he was on his way to making the $800 promised to him by owner Frank Navin if he hit over .300 for the season. That was, of course, to complement his 'outlandish' $4000 salary.

At 40" x 62", this guy was a commission, and now that I'm officially moved into my new apartment and unpacked (for the most part), I can get going on some of the other commissions from you board members - I'm sure you know who you are.

Anyways, hope you dig it. As always, any comments are welcome!

Thanks,

Graig

jacksons
08-26-2010, 06:53 PM
Looks sweet, Graig. Your paintings bring these old one-dimensional photographs to life.

Thanks for sharing, as always.

What a flat swing plane he had with that back elbow so low.

perezfan
08-27-2010, 10:31 AM
Another beauty.... really enables you to feel what it must have been like to be there. I love that backdrop with the ultra-high upper deck.

One of your very best, Graig. Thanks so much for posting.

milkit1
08-27-2010, 11:18 AM
im impressed by the bystanders and crowd. Thats the tough thing about baseball painting is inevitably you have to paint a crowd. Great job!
Now Im officially two compliments away from my free painting graig! :)

GKreindler
08-27-2010, 01:48 PM
Oh, Sean. :)

Thanks for the compliments, guys.

Cobb really did seem to have a great swing. I found it interesting how his hands were so together in this image, unlike a lot of other shots we see of him, with his hands so far apart. I guess it makes sense that he hit the ball over the rightfield fence.

And man, that crowd was a b*tch. There was a lot going on there and since it was so crowded, it was a little hard to create the depth of field I was looking for. Having the stands in there definitely helped a bit, as the structure right behind Cobb's head ends up being much cooler in temperature than what's above the heads of the catcher and umpire. The former really sits back the way it should, as when objects go back in space, they tend to get a little cooler in temperature and for the most part, lighter. But anyways, that structure was absolutely crucial for this painting to have any sort of dimension whatsoever.

GKreindler
09-07-2010, 11:21 PM
Hey all,

Hope everyone had a wonderful Labor Day weekend.

I took the time to take a break from commission stuff and work on some smaller portraits for the inventory, as well as to get the juices flowing in the new apartment. Or something.

These are only a few hours in each, so none of them are done. The 9" x 12" Gehrig is probably the closest to completion, though I need to get more work on the mezzanine level, as well as soften some edges and some minor details (buttons!). Apparently, this one is already spoken for.

The second is a seldom-seen Conlon shot of DiMaggio. I believe it's from '36 or '37, judging from his face. The light captured in the photograph seems a little big flat and devoid of punch, so I'm trying to exaggerate that a bit. Obviously, this 9" x 12"s not there yet, either.

The least finished is the 11" x 14" of Home Run Baker. I've always adored the image it came from and I finally thought I'd give it a shot. The man looks like a friggin' ghost. I hope I can pull it off in the end.

Anywho, questions, comments and crits are always welcomed! And as usual, excuse the sh*tty photography - one day, I'll get that right.

Thanks for checking back!

Graig

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Gehrig-1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DiMaggio-2.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Baker.jpg

Forever Young
09-07-2010, 11:29 PM
I don't think hr baker looks like a ghost at all! You are HORRIBLE!!! BOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Hey all,

Hope everyone had a wonderful Labor Day weekend.

I took the time to take a break from commission stuff and work on some smaller portraits for the inventory, as well as to get the juices flowing in the new apartment. Or something.

These are only a few hours in each, so none of them are done. The 9" x 12" Gehrig is probably the closest to completion, though I need to get more work on the mezzanine level, as well as soften some edges and some minor details (buttons!). Apparently, this one is already spoken for.

The second is a seldom-seen Conlon shot of DiMaggio. I believe it's from '36 or '37, judging from his face. The light captured in the photograph seems a little big flat and devoid of punch, so I'm trying to exaggerate that a bit. Obviously, this 9" x 12"s not there yet, either.

The least finished is the 11" x 14" of Home Run Baker. I've always adored the image it came from and I finally thought I'd give it a shot. The man looks like a friggin' ghost. I hope I can pull it off in the end.

Anywho, questions, comments and crits are always welcomed! And as usual, excuse the sh*tty photography - one day, I'll get that right.

Thanks for checking back!

Graig

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Gehrig-1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/DiMaggio-2.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Baker.jpg

PhilNap
09-07-2010, 11:32 PM
Is the light OK in that new Studio of yours???

danc
09-07-2010, 11:53 PM
I prefer Leon Wolf. His attention to details is far more precise, and he doesn't come on Boards fishing for prospective buyers.

DanC

P.S Did you give Baker, Shoeless Joe's ears?

nebboy
09-08-2010, 07:30 AM
I prefer Leon Wolf. His attention to details is far more precise, and he doesn't come on Boards fishing for prospective buyers.

Dan

I think you miss the point that it is US that wants to see his work and request updates to his work. Also paintings in my view need to have a painterly quality not just a strick copy of a photo. The use of color, and the brush stroke make this style of painting.

But we all get to like what we like when it come to art.

jacksons
09-08-2010, 08:30 AM
Nebboy -

This is just a guess, but based on Dan C's profile picture, I believe his post was in jest.

Looks to me like he's a fan of Graig's work.

danc
09-08-2010, 09:16 PM
Yes, Jacksons is correct. It was in pure jest, and my avatar is that of the brilliant young painter.

DanC

Forever Young
09-08-2010, 10:26 PM
What a horrible joke to play on all these fine net54 goers. You should be ashamed of yourself. I am glad that you have embraced the Graig though.

Yes, Jacksons is correct. It was in pure jest, and my avatar is that of the brilliant young painter.

DanC

danc
09-09-2010, 10:17 PM
I went to Maryland and witnessed Forever Young getting crabs.

DanC

Peter Griffin and Frank Baker

GKreindler
09-10-2010, 12:19 AM
:D

GKreindler
10-01-2010, 12:16 PM
Hey guys,

Here are completed shots of the Gehrig and Baker paintings. Additionally, I don't remember if I posted the Foxx or not, as I just had it photographed. They also need some touching up in Photoshop to make sure the colors are where they need to be.

Either way, hope y'all dig 'em!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Lou_Gehrig_1927_Portrait.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Frank_Home_Run_Baker_1913.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Jimmie_Foxx_1933_Portrait.jpg


Graig

danc
10-06-2010, 05:11 PM
I enjoyed the Mel Ott (inside joke). Great work as always Graig. The Baker came out really nice.

DanC

perezfan
10-06-2010, 06:25 PM
+1

They're all wonderful, but I especially love the Baker.

GKreindler
10-06-2010, 10:16 PM
Thanks so much, Dan and Mark!

I'm pretty fond of that Baker image - I think that stare is absolutely striking. I would even say it's on par with the Conlon Mathewson image. Haunting!

Graig

PhilNap
10-06-2010, 10:47 PM
Haunting is right. That Baker belongs on the wall of a mansion in a Scooby Doo cartoon. I saw it in person and I think his eyes may have shifted. Good work Graig but don't go gettin' a swelled head or I'll start hurling more tomatos.

GKreindler
10-06-2010, 11:41 PM
Don't make me start that Pennock...

:o

HRBAKER
10-07-2010, 12:01 AM
Haunting is right. That Baker belongs on the wall of a mansion in a Scooby Doo cartoon. I saw it in person and I think his eyes may have shifted. Good work Graig but don't go gettin' a swelled head or I'll start hurling more tomatos.

I think he captured the unibrow perfectly. Is that really Baker or the drummer for REM?

PhilNap
10-07-2010, 08:52 PM
Don't make me start that Pennock...

:o

Pennock huh? Well at least you didn't go all Julian Wera on my @$$.

GKreindler
10-26-2010, 01:37 PM
Hey guys,

Here's the latest for those of you keeping score!

Jackie stealing home against Andy Seminick during the first game of a doubleheader between Brooklyn and Philadelphia on July 2, 1950.

That was a mouthful.

Hope you dig it!

Graig

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Dodgers.jpg

danc
10-26-2010, 02:58 PM
That's a gorgeous JR. Where's the Gil McDougal you said you were working on?

Bobby Shantz in the future?

Do the Vera just for that Scooby Doo reference alone. I bet he spent all night working on that line. :-)

DanC

P.S: GK, BH was sent yesterday.

whitehse
10-27-2010, 03:13 PM
Once again, spectacular painting! Someday I have to see these in person!! I bet they look even better!

GKreindler
11-28-2010, 05:38 PM
Hey all,

I figure it's been more than a month since I posted something last on here, so I thought I'd give it a whirl for those of you who are still tuned in.

I got these three 9"x12"s back from the photographers a couple of weeks ago. The Gehrig dates from '27, the DiMag from '36 and the Feller from '37. All of them originate from that master of disaster, Charles M. Conlon.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Lou_Gehrig_1927_Portrait_Overcast.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Joe_DiMaggio_1936_Portrait.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Bob_Feller_1937_Portrait-1.jpg

I also have a bunch of larger ones in progress, but I'll have to post them later when the studio is a bit cleaner and I can actually get them onto the easel to take photos of 'em. Some of them are even commissions from fellow board members. Woot!

Oh, and if you want to keep track of any painting stuff, I regularly update my Facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/GraigKreindler

Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend!

Graig

milkit1
11-28-2010, 07:13 PM
nice job again Graig. Out of a personal preference, I prefer your action ones that show more of the stadium. Nothing against your close ups but for me your strongest with the wide action shots. Looking forward to seeing the ones your working on and for gods sake make a Hal Chase! :)

Big Six
11-28-2010, 07:31 PM
nice job again Graig. Out of a personal preference, I prefer your action ones that show more of the stadium. Nothing against your close ups but for me your strongest with the wide action shots. Looking forward to seeing the ones your working on and for gods sake make a Hal Chase! :)

I second the call for a Chase...any candidates for a good Chase picture to work from???

GKreindler
11-28-2010, 09:05 PM
Thanks for your thoughts, Sean. I actually really enjoy doing those action shots the most, as like you, I love being able to see the ballpark. Man, if I could do one of those a month, I'd be super happy. Maybe I really need to start trying.

But yeah, the small ones are ultra-satisfying too. Thankfully, those images only go on the smaller panels, so in a way, I think of them like baseball cards - profile pictures, I guess. At the same time, they're not as tough to research as some of those other paintings, so they're a nice break from everything.

Regarding Chase, I've always loved this shot from '05. Though smiling, I always thought he looked kinda devilish.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/HalChase1905.jpg

Graig

ethicsprof
11-28-2010, 10:08 PM
incredibly beautiful work!!!
I love that you choose the master of disaster as your photographer.
I have the Conlon Paskert,Mowrey,Moeller, and L. Tannehill and they're displayed on one of my many(thankfully) office walls.

all the best,
barry

GKreindler
11-29-2010, 06:29 AM
Thank you so much, Barry!!

I'd love to see shots of those Conlons, if you have them. Especially the Tannehill.

bronxbomber609
11-29-2010, 12:24 PM
beautiful art work thanks for sharing

GKreindler
11-29-2010, 03:56 PM
Thanks for the compliments, Romeo!

This one needs another day or two, but it's almost there. Commissioned by a fellow board member, this is based off of another one of Conlon's beautiful pieces. I'm pretty sure this dates back to '25.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Gehrig-3.jpg

As usual, my photography stinks. Hope ya dig it anyways!

Graig

milkit1
11-29-2010, 04:39 PM
Graig,
Thats a KILLER chase pic! Could you paint that with a stadium surrounding?

GKreindler
11-29-2010, 05:48 PM
Because of the angle, I'd probably only keep a sliver of the ballpark at the bottom of the canvas. I think the sky would just frame his head perfectly. I do have some other shots of him from a little further back though, mostly fielding first base, with much more of the ballparks showing through.

ethicsprof
11-29-2010, 10:08 PM
graig,
i'd love to show you but this ole dinosaur never learned to scan( barry sloate and i are the last of this pitiful breed methinks). i surely wouldn't know how to do it now since they're on the office walls!
the tannehill is the photo behind the T206 tannehill (no L);
the paskert if the photo behind the T3 paskert cincinnati;
mowrey and moeller are just beauts.
the first i won in legendary 2009; the other 3 i won in the B&L auction late this year.
again, i do love your work!!!!!!

best,
barry

milkit1
11-30-2010, 07:00 AM
well i guess my question is have you ever painted a picture and used a different background?

GKreindler
11-30-2010, 09:56 AM
Barry, I've always loved that Tannehill shot. It depicts him after casually tossing the ball, right? Conlon was so amazing at capturing shots like that. Even though I love the game action shots and all, seeing the guys casually tossing before a game is really cool. It's as much a part of a game as any image could be.

Sean, I have indeed. The only problem with this image is that because of the angle of the photograph, as well as the direction of the sunlight, it would be very hard to place any deadball era ballpark in the background that wouldn't sit pretty low to the bottom of the canvas. It would probably be best to find another Chase shot if you wanted to see more of the ballpark backdrop. Then again, I could just extend his body down to the knees, and you could see more that way...

milkit1
11-30-2010, 11:19 AM
cool! well there ya go! Looking forward to seeing that chase! lol

GKreindler
11-30-2010, 12:04 PM
:D

ethicsprof
11-30-2010, 09:38 PM
you are correct. it is that casual tannehill.
i've been drawn to it for the same reasons you elucidate.

keep up the great work.

best,
barry

milkit1
12-18-2010, 03:05 PM
Please tell me you won this one and are going to paint it. I was the under bidder and had I won I was going to give it to you and insist you paint it :)

29308

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=250738687201&si=KVMOnOkqq1qeCZ%252FXndUoQnTcE1A%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

brandoningram
12-19-2010, 03:42 PM
Have a look at this pic Graig...I know you're a Yankee fan ( not your fault ),this shoould be your next "on the easel" project...
http://cgi.ebay.com/MICKEY-MANTLE-WHITEY-FORD-YOGI-HANK-BAUER-TALK-BASEBALL-/400181013256?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item5d2ca5ab08

brandoningram
12-19-2010, 03:49 PM
Heres another good one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/MICKEY-MANTLE-CASEY-STENGEL-TALK-BASEBALL-CLASSIC-/400181831950?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item5d2cb2290e

GKreindler
12-19-2010, 04:42 PM
Sean, that Speaker shot would be cool indeed. I have a feeling I would drive myself absolutely bonkers trying to get all of the right colors and what not for that painting. I wonder if it's still around?

Brandon, both of those shots are wonderful. The only problem is, that particular seller isn't so great. He/she gets all of those photos from Internet screen-shots, and every single one I've ordered from them has been beyond pixelated. I do, however, have a nice scan of the first one from a Marvin Newman book...

milkit1
12-19-2010, 06:32 PM
yeah I was wondering that myself. What a cool painting to have. I bet it would be difficult to get that picture right paiting a painting. Thought it was pretty surreal :)

darrend505
12-19-2010, 08:33 PM
Just wanted to say that your work is amazing. Hopefully one day I may be able to afford one of them! They are so realistic!!!

GKreindler
12-20-2010, 07:39 AM
Thank you so much for those compliments, Darren!! I'm really glad you dig the work.

And Sean, surreal indeed. I have a feeling that one day, some random commission will require me to do something like this, and I can picture myself combing the country to see if the painting still exists. And I'd probably love every single second of it.

milkit1
12-21-2010, 06:59 PM
you can do it! we're all counting on ya :)

GKreindler
01-10-2011, 06:09 PM
Hey guys,

Thought I'd start this bad-boy up again, as I just got a bunch of paintings back from the photographers.

The majority of them are on the smaller side, as I've been working a lot on these smaller guys when I take breaks from the large canvases. I guess because they're a little less involved, they are a bit quicker to get done.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Honus_Wagner_1909_Portrait.jpg
Honus Wagner, 1909

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Charlie_Gehringer_1925_Portrait_Conlon.jpg
Charlie Gehringer, 1925

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Lefty_Grove_1925_Conlon.jpg
Lefty Grove, 1925

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Darryl_Strawberry_1987.jpg
Darryl Strawberry, 1987

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/Babe_Ruth_1922_Walking_Thompson.jpg
Babe Ruth, 1922

I have about five more that need to be photographed in the next week too, so I'll post those when they come back into the studio. Also, I have a ton of in-progress stuff that I can post if anyone's interested.

And if not, that's cool too.

Hope y'all enjoy!

Graig

PS: Oh, and if you want to follow what I'm doing a little more closely, become a fan on Facebook!

http://www.facebook.com/GraigKreindler

jacksons
01-10-2011, 06:37 PM
I think you're getting better at this Graig, if that's even possible.

That Strawberry is absolutely breathtaking!

Hell yeah I want to see more!

Kawika
01-10-2011, 06:43 PM
Great work, Graig. Love the way the background pops on the Ruth.

GKreindler
01-11-2011, 02:56 PM
Thanks a lot, guys!!!

I'll have to take some photos of the in-progress stuff tomorrow, as my camera seems to be a little bit on the fritz. Being that I'm so bad with it to begin with, maybe I should just cut my losses and throw it into the street...

Graig

D. Broughman
01-11-2011, 05:08 PM
If I could paint like you I would throw my camera away:D

Forever Young
01-12-2011, 08:47 AM
If I could paint like you I would throw my camera away:D

I would cut my ear off and check into a mental institution. Do it! I dare you!

Forever Young
01-12-2011, 08:58 AM
and nice Ruth BTW..:)

D. Broughman
01-12-2011, 09:21 AM
I would cut my ear off and check into a mental institution. Do it! I dare you!

Ben my son is a professional photographer and takes pictures for pro teams. It is amazing what he can do with a camera just like Graig does with his brush. I was just trying to compliment his work.

Forever Young
01-12-2011, 11:59 AM
Ben my son is a professional photographer and takes pictures for pro teams. It is amazing what he can do with a camera just like Graig does with his brush. I was just trying to compliment his work.

This was directed to Graig..not you...not sure what happened..must have hit quote vs post. Sorry for the confusion :). Just giving Graiger the grief he deserves for being my friend.

jacksons
01-12-2011, 12:26 PM
Congratulations on your Ruth, Ben - I'm jealous.

I still can't get over that Strawberry. It's insane - it may even be on par with the Mathewson Graig did. ;)

I've logged into Net54 more in one week than I ever have, just to look at that Strawberry painting again.

I'm not trying to embarrass you, Graig!

Those mid-80s Mets jerseys really pop on the canvas though - love to see one of Orosco kneeling on the mound, flinging his glove into the air, or of Knight trotting home at the end of Game 6.

D. Broughman
01-12-2011, 12:45 PM
This was directed to Graig..not you...not sure what happened..must have hit quote vs post. Sorry for the confusion :). Just giving Graiger the grief he deserves for being my friend.

Understood it is great to have friends you can rag on. I hope he enjoys ragging on you too;)

Forever Young
01-12-2011, 01:26 PM
Understood it is great to have friends you can rag on. I hope he enjoys ragging on you too;)

It is and no he doesn't as I would beat him...haha j/k

GKreindler
01-12-2011, 05:21 PM
Oh, believe me, Dynarl, Ben gets his.

And Jacksons, you're making me blush. Thank you for your kind words. Hopefully you'll feel the same about your up-and-comer...

I have to agree with you on those Mets jerseys. Those mid-80s togs were absolutely amazing. And coming from a Yankee fan, this is not the easiest thing in the world to say, but I always thought he looked best in blue and orange.

Graig

GKreindler
01-18-2011, 10:55 PM
Hey all,

Just got these back from the photographers, too:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/MoeBerg1935.jpg
Moe Berg, 1935

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/EdKranepool1963.jpg
Ed Kranepool, 1963

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/EddieCollins1909.jpg
Eddie Collins, 1909

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/GKreindler/MickeyMantle1956.jpg
Mickey Mantle, 1956

A motley crew/crue indeed. The Mantle is actually a redo, as the original was...ahem...lost. Not cool.

Anywho, I would love to hear any thoughts you want to throw my way, especially with the Collins. That one had somewhat of a different quality of light that I've not painted before, and I'm not terribly sure that I was successful. Boo.

I hope you like all four, but I'll settle for three. Actually, I'll settle for one.

Graig

timzcardz
01-19-2011, 06:45 AM
Graig, you are a man of many talents, or at least one extreme talent!
I always look for new postings from you, because they are simply amazing.

So the first Mantle was "lost"? :eek: Is it by any chance now part of the Barry Halper collection?

Since you specifically asked about the Collins, I absolutley love it. The only thing that bothers me or seems eerie, is that when I look at it, it appears to me that Collins' left eye is looking directly into my eyes but his right eye seems to be loking over my left shoulder. It could just be me. Or were Collins' eyes actually that way? If so, then you certainly captured it.


And thanks for the Berg. It reminds me that I was reading "The Catcher Was A Spy" while on vacation a few year ago and hadn't finished it when vacation was over. I really need to pick that up again. Somehow that painting seems to capture the essence of what I know about him and his life.

Lordstan
01-19-2011, 07:55 AM
Graig,
The Mantle is Spectacular, as is the Strawberry you posted last week. They look just like pictures.
The other three are excellent as well.
I'm not sure what you don't like about the Collins. I think it captures him quite nicely.

BTW, the picture is in the mail tomorrow.

Mark

jacksons
01-19-2011, 08:24 AM
Graig - they are all fantastic.

I'd love to know how you determine exact eye, hair color, etc. for these deadballers.

Is this through literary research, or is it maybe assumed by the shade of these attributes in b/w photographs?

Eddie Collins' eyes are haunting. How did you know he had such light colored eyes?

BTW - sorry to hear about the Mantle redo - the second one looks just as good as the first, though, if not better.

GKreindler
01-19-2011, 01:17 PM
Thanks for all of your comments, guys - I really appreciate the honest feedback.

timzcardz, it's funny you should mention that...um...just kidding. But really, I'm a bit upset that I never got to do this kind of stuff when Barry was still around and active. It really would have been wonderful to meet him if I ever had the chance.

Also, thanks for the comments on the Collins painting. His eyes seem to be pretty consistent with the photograph, I think. But, it's definitely possible that I could have been a little off. I'm really still debating, so I'll have to give it another look or six.

Mark, you da man. Thank you. And from what Dean tells me, your painting should be going out quite soon.

jacksons, thanks for the kind words again, especially regarding the Mantle. I blame Dean. Let's leave it at that.

Regarding the eye colors, it's all done with research, mostly through books and magazines. Sometimes, though ti can be tough, I have to guess based on the approximate value of the person's iris compared to the retina. Even that can't be exact though.

The feeling with Collins that I was trying to go for was just what you mentioned - having a focal point in his eyes. The light I was trying to achieve was to be reflected from outside of the dugout for the most part. In other words, in the dark dugout, I wanted Collins' head to peer out and seem to glow. And in such a case, it seemed that his blue eyes would appear almost crystalline. You may notice that on a bright day with cloud cover, the pigment in a person's eyes will be really chromatic, sometimes even more so than with direct light from the sun. I guess that was really the effect I was trying for.

Graig

quinnsryche
01-19-2011, 02:26 PM
Hi, never posted but always admired. Greg, you are the best and most talented sports artist I have ever seen. That Berg is amazing, like he is actually sitting there, and the Mantle is just as incredible. I really think you captured the intensity of a young baseball hero in the making. The other 2 are nice but the Berg and Mantle really seem to come to life in my opinion. I don't come to this side often but when I do I always search out the posts of your artwork. You are truly a gifted artist. When I win the lottery, you'll be the first to know it! :D

HRBAKER
01-19-2011, 03:36 PM
Graig,

I think that the Collins is fabulous. That along with the Baker are my faves of all of your incredible work, an A's bias not doubt showing through. Because after all how could you pick really? :)

Keep up the good work.

Jeff