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HOFAUTOS
10-12-2009, 07:44 PM
When they find out they paid $280 for a worthless fake

http://cgi.ebay.com/MICKEY-MANTLE-7-AUTOGRAPHED-BASEBALL_W0QQitemZ290356436114QQcmdZViewItemQQptZL H_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item439a979c92

jbsports33
10-12-2009, 07:56 PM
Wow, the second M is not even attached!

Jimmy

Pup6913
10-12-2009, 08:11 PM
looks like some seller recieved their monthly supply of Roaches Corner Mantle autos with inscriptions to boot.

roarfrom34
10-12-2009, 08:46 PM
come on guys, it came with a COA :p

IMO one of the worst things the "hobby" did in the 1990's, was to indoctrinate the casual collecting public that if an item (such as this piece of garbage) came with a COA, it had to be good.

J.McMurry
10-13-2009, 05:14 AM
Isnt that also one of those cheap rubber baseballs?

Not sure I would have paid $5 for that if the sig was real.

Fuddjcal
10-13-2009, 10:40 AM
Unacceptable Authenticators on eBay
Many eBay members have heard about a federal investigation by the FBI and United States Attorneys' offices into forgeries of sports autographs and certificates of authenticity that may have been falsely issued. As a result of that case, eBay will not permit the use of or reference to certificates of authenticity on its site that have been issued by the following parties:

All-Sports Cards & Memorabilia

Classic Memorabilia

Dave Niedema, a.k.a. Dave Madiema

Donald Frangipani

Forensic Document Services-Robert Prouty

Hollywood Dreams

J. Dimaggio Co. / J. Dimaggio Company

Legends Sports Memorabilia

North Shore Sports

Pro Sports / Pro Sports Memorabilia

R.R.'s Sports Cards & Collectibles

SCAA /Front Page Art Angela-John Marino

Slamdunk Sportscards Memoribilia

Sport Card Kid Hunting Beachor

Sports Alley Memorabilia

Sports Management Group

Stan's Sports / Stans Sports Memorabilia

Steve Ryan

Universal

Universal Inc.

Universal Memorabilia

W.W. Sportscards & Collectibles

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Donald Frangipani

Hundreds of COAs originally issued by Donald Frangipani may have been fraudulently copied or altered. Until further notice, eBay will not permit any use of or reference to certificates of authenticity issued by Donald Frangipani.

Robert Prouty

Forensic examiner Robert Prouty and a company known as Forensic Document Services caused a number of certificates to be issued based upon only limited, "cursory" reviews of autographs. Based upon information from the N.Y. Department of Consumer Affairs, federal law enforcement and Mr. Prouty, it appears that these limited reviews were not sufficient to provide meaningful assurances about the authenticity of the autograph. As a number of items issued with such certificates may be forgeries, eBay will not permit any such limited certificates of authenticity issued by Robert Prouty or Forensic Document Services to be used in any way on eBay.

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What I don't understand is how e-bay doesn't pull this immediately is beyond me. That looks like an operation bullpen Marino special to me. $280. is a tad overpriced for a fake and a good learning experience for the dope that was duped.:eek:

GoldenAge50s
10-13-2009, 11:34 AM
Wow, the second M is not even attached!

Jimmy

Jimmy--

In interest of fairness & accuracy, the second M in Mick's AUTHENTIC sig is not attached!

jbsports33
10-15-2009, 12:33 PM
yes, but the M does not go up like the eBay example and many authentic signatures get close or touch the "a" in Mantle