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chiprop
08-30-2009, 09:56 AM
I can't hold it in any longer. There are a few cards that when I see them, I cringe. It doesn't matter what the signifigance of this Ruth card is, I just can't stand it. Ruth holding a bird with a bat in his crotch and a dude with pants too short staring at the camera freeks me out. What cards bring about a negative vibe for you?
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baseballfan
08-30-2009, 10:19 AM
that certainly is an odd card
Bicem
08-30-2009, 10:24 AM
e97/98 Cy Young
I mean come on, how do you get the image wrong of Cy Young?!
http://www.oldcardboard.com/e/e1/e097/young-bw.jpg
Peter_Spaeth
08-30-2009, 10:48 AM
E91s.
Ladder7
08-30-2009, 11:34 AM
My take on this historic image. The Bird., In those days, carrier pigeons were used to haul messages and film from the 'scene' directly to the press office. The Rags' legman would often carry several during big events, evidenced by the size of the Camel cigs box.
This shot represents the breaking of Roger Connor's Home Run record 1921 and Ruth having the honor of sending off the skinny. I believe the little fellow is a local Detroit clothier Rocco Capri :o
It's a weird but interesting image.
carrigansghost
08-30-2009, 12:48 PM
J=K very fragile and impossible to find.
Rawn
HRBAKER
08-30-2009, 02:38 PM
Most of the all-time great offenders have been mentioned; Irv (Cy) Young, E91s, many strips. I would also add the MP & Co.
packs
08-30-2009, 02:51 PM
I'm not really a fan of the Mecca Double Folders. I know there are some great combinations in the set, but I just can't get into them.
Steve D
08-30-2009, 05:11 PM
T3 Home Run Baker (Jack Barry).
Not sure of the set, but the E-card of Frank Chance that shows nothing but his rear-end.
The afore-mentioned Cy (Irv) Young cards.
E90-1 Cy Young (Cleveland) - side view with the big pointed nose...it just doesn't look like him.
E91's (except for Johnny Evers and John McGraw)
I also agree with the Babe's bird card. I just don't get it, and the bat is just wrong.
Steve
packs
08-30-2009, 05:38 PM
I've also never been a fan of Cy's E92. It could be anyone.
Jason Carota
08-30-2009, 06:34 PM
MP & Co. and Joe Wood's Cracker Jacks.
Bicem
08-30-2009, 06:56 PM
Joe Wood's Cracker Jacks.
why?
sox1903wschamp
08-30-2009, 07:41 PM
MP & Co. and Joe Wood's Cracker Jacks.
Hi Jason,
I am right with you on the MP & Co. but would have to respectfully disagree with the E-145's of Smokey :). Is it the lips?
frohme
08-30-2009, 07:50 PM
I'll add to the chorus - the E91's and strip cards. I'll also agree with Jeff's sig that there is definite need for a sarcasm font. -- Mike
brianp-beme
08-30-2009, 07:56 PM
Good golly...so much hate for the E91's...if only you knew (and you will shortly)....
Brian
Jason Carota
08-30-2009, 08:00 PM
why?
Hi Jason,
I am right with you on the MP & Co. but would have to respectfully disagree with the E-145's of Smokey :). Is it the lips?
Bingo! The lips take away any appeal that card would have for me. The E90-1 Jackson doesn't bother me as much as the CJ Wood.
E90-1 Jackson....a hideous card that is common and way over priced...imho......
Orioles1954
08-31-2009, 07:34 AM
Along with all other Black Sox material. I never got and never will get the allure.
chiprop
08-31-2009, 08:58 AM
Leon... WHAT? Why do you continue to bash the e90-1 Jax? It's a classic card! Maybe if you had one, you would feel different.
<a href="http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/chiprop/?action=view¤t=Jacksone90-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/chiprop/Jacksone90-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
Leon... WHAT? Why do you continue to bash the e90-1 Jax? It's a classic card! Maybe if you had one, you would feel different.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/chiprop/Jacksone90-1.jpg (http://s68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/chiprop/?action=view¤t=Jacksone90-1.jpg)
To each their own. Some folks can't understand collecting backs or overprints. I think this is one of the absolute ugliest, overpriced, most common overrated cards in the hobby....I still can't believe they go for so much money......Sorry, but to me it's really, really ugly. Did I mention I think it's ugly?
Jacklitsch
08-31-2009, 09:03 AM
Along with all other Black Sox material. I never got and never will get the allure.
I agree. Advanced collectors know better and will stay away from that crap.
Jim VB
08-31-2009, 09:17 AM
I agree. Advanced collectors know better and will stay away from that crap.
I'm with Steve. In fact, I will soon be coming up with a complete list of things that everyone else should stay away from! :D
slantycouch
08-31-2009, 09:23 AM
Hard to argue against MP & Co's.
zork1974
08-31-2009, 11:53 AM
Someone want to fill me in on the unpopularity of the E91 set? I think they're o.k...
chaddurbin
08-31-2009, 11:55 AM
DK,
why so much hate? i love your e90-1 jax and e92 croft blue back wagner!
edit: i just bid $500 on this card, what do you think DK, smart investment if it ends there or still too much?
http://goodwinandco.com/LotImages/13/Lot83a_med.jpeg
Bicem
08-31-2009, 01:59 PM
I hate Old Judge cards that have images so light you can just barely make out the player. Not a fan of the pink tinted ones either.
barrysloate
08-31-2009, 02:09 PM
The E90-1 Jackson is purple...I love purple.
The E90-1 Jackson is purple...I love purple.
purple's a fruit.
barrysloate
08-31-2009, 02:20 PM
Homer Simpson said that.:)
Homer Simpson said that.:)
Just making sure you were paying attention :)
3-2-count
08-31-2009, 04:21 PM
Dan,
I'll stand behind ya'. Put me down as a fan of the E90-1 Jax.
His true rookie card......
Anthony S.
08-31-2009, 05:12 PM
Someone want to fill me in on the unpopularity of the E91 set? I think they're o.k...
I assume it's the generic poses that don't depict the actual players in the set that turns off collectors.
Aw man. Why so much hate on the Black Sox and the E90-1 Joe? These cards are great.
Aw man. Why so much hate on the Black Sox and the E90-1 Joe? These cards are great.
I think black sox collecting and Joe Jackson collecting are awesome. I just don't care for his e90-1.....I think I am almost the only one (or only one that will come out of the closet about it) that doesn't care for it. Chocolate vs vanilla. I don't think it's a "bad" card.....I don't care for the look of it, is all. Hey, I'm partially color blind, and have been (rightfully) accused of selective hearing, so what do I know? :rolleyes:
Leon - I'm also partially colorblind and I also don't like the "noseless" Joe Jackson. Maybe it looks better to people who can see the full spectrum.
Wesley
08-31-2009, 07:12 PM
E254 Colgan Chips/ Red Borders/ Tin Tops
(Not fond of undersized round cards.)
F50 Tharp / Harrington / Yuengling / Sweetman / etc.
(These are not horrible, but the images are recyled in 6 + sets.)
E91
(Images are recycled and do not look like the players depicted)
D355 Niagara Baking / E98 Old Put / E94 overprints
(Hate the overprints that were done after the actual production process.)
chiprop
08-31-2009, 07:24 PM
Quan- good investment... Yes at $500.00 --------- Ugly? Yep!!
I love the fact that some don't find the allure of blacksox players. Stay away! Sometimes we make fun of that which we don't understand. Kinda like the difference between a t206 with a 460 rather than a 360 back. HU? Now a Marten's, Victory, and red Croft's I understand.
Wes- I'm with you. I owned a few overprints, and they just don't do it for me. Not worth the premium and too easily reproduced.
calvindog
08-31-2009, 08:33 PM
F50 Tharp / Harrington / Yuengling / Sweetman / etc.
(These are not horrible, but the images are recyled in 6 + sets.)
D355 Niagara Baking / E98 Old Put / E94 overprints
(Hate the overprints that were done after the actual production process.)
Agreed. And the E90-1 Jackson is so ugly that it is almost beautiful. I love the card and it is a true iconic image in our hobby.
rman444
08-31-2009, 10:00 PM
The thing that makes me cringe/hate the E90-1 Jax so much is not how it looks but just how damn overpriced it is. One of the top 10 overrated cards in the hobby.
Easy506
08-31-2009, 10:08 PM
I am sure I am in the minority on this one.....T206 Cobb Red Background. The blank stare on his face makes him look like he is either stoned or hypnotized (or both). I'm also not a fan of the T205 Cobb with his head kind of floating there. I do like most other Cobb's.
Jim
rhettyeakley
08-31-2009, 10:09 PM
I'll probably catch some heat for it (as there are many that love the set) but I have always disliked the 1912 Boston Garters.
Now, the 1913 color set is one of the most beautiful sets ever produced, but half naked men changing clothes just doesn't do it for me. Especially disturbing is the Hughie Jennings, he just has WAY to big of a smile on his face as he is standing there with his hands on his hips.
-Rhett
Al C.risafulli
08-31-2009, 11:11 PM
I'm with Leon on the E90-1 Jackson. One of my least favorite cards in the hobby, and I never understood its allure. Pales in comparison with the Cracker Jack, if a color card of Shoeless is what you're looking for.
I also am not a fan of the Duke cabinets. The players have tiny heads and huge, broad, square shoulders.
-Al
Bicem
08-31-2009, 11:20 PM
Put me down for not a fan at all of the e90-1 Jackson. I don't think it's that ugly, but looks nothing like him to me.
Duke cabinets are gorgeous though!!!!!
Anthony S.
08-31-2009, 11:34 PM
C46's. They took great B &W photos and ruined them with faux wood paneling that looks like it was strip mined from The Brady Bunch's basement.
rhettyeakley
08-31-2009, 11:40 PM
I agree about the Duke Cabinets to an extent.
Ironically, the one in least demand (the Nash) is the only one that doesn't have that awkward look to it, the Robinson looks absolutely ridiculous, with the Delahanty being not much better. The Davis still off a bit but is more presentable than the Robinson & Delahanty.
-Rhett
Wesley
09-01-2009, 12:00 AM
I'll probably catch some heat for it (as there are many that love the set) but I have always disliked the 1912 Boston Garters.
Now, the 1913 color set is one of the most beautiful sets ever produced, but half naked men changing clothes just doesn't do it for me. Especially disturbing is the Hughie Jennings, he just has WAY to big of a smile on his face as he is standing there with his hands on his hips.
-Rhett
I don't get the allure of the 1912 Boston Garters either. Many collectors really love the images on those cards, but they're just not for me.
Price notwithstanding, I prefer both the 1913 and 1914 sets. The 1913 colors and design are fantastic. Additionally, the player selection is much stronger with cards of both Cobb and Jackson. I even prefer the looks of the 1914 black and white set over that of the 1912 set.
tycobbfanatic
09-01-2009, 06:21 AM
and am a sucker for other true Rookie ( or pre-rookie ) cards of the best players.
Jacklitsch
09-01-2009, 01:27 PM
C46's. They took great B &W photos and ruined them with faux wood paneling that looks like it was strip mined from The Brady Bunch's basement.
Dems fighting words!! (Sorry, can't find an appropriate smilie)
slantycouch
09-01-2009, 01:39 PM
yuck.
Haha.
brianp-beme
09-01-2009, 03:13 PM
I figured out why the Robinson and Delehanty cabinets that Rhett posted look so odd. The artists made the width of each of their bodes extra wide, probably because they wanted to fit in the length of 'Baltimore' and 'Philadelphia' across their uniforms without reducing the size of print. Note the 'Boston' team name on the Nash card is the approximately the same size lettering as Robinson and Delehanty, and can fit easily on his uniform, thus the width of his chest is more in proportion and doesn't seem 'odd'.
Brian
Zach Wheat
09-02-2009, 09:35 AM
How about this W516 2-2 of Cobb? I am not sure whether he is holding a glove or returning a book to the library since his "glove" is in the wrong hand. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Cobb bat as a lefty but threw with his right?
rhettyeakley
09-02-2009, 09:39 AM
Check out the IFC credit in the corner, it is backwards, so the card has been reversed. So you are correct he does have the glove on the wrong hand.
-Rhett
brianp-beme
09-02-2009, 10:32 AM
It's a shame Mirror Image Ty Cobb is not in the HOF, because he was one helluva ballplayer. Check out his stats next time you are in the bathroom and you will see what I mean.
Brian
yazfan08
09-02-2009, 12:02 PM
http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/News_And_Analysis/__Story_Inserts/graphics/__SPORTS/__A-M/honus_wagner_card.jpg
So rare that I seem to see it offered more than 4x per year. Yes, yes, I'd certainly take one.
I realize this post is sacrilegious.
Bicem
09-02-2009, 12:11 PM
I can't say that I hate the t206 Wagner b/c it's a good looking card, but definitely the most overrated card in the hobby. Followed very closely by the '52 Topps Mantle.
yazfan08
09-02-2009, 12:34 PM
but definitely the most overrated card in the hobby. Followed very closely by the '52 Topps Mantle.
Since we're including post-war, then the '52 Mantle is the most overrated. Aesthetic wise, it's beautiful though.
4815162342
09-02-2009, 03:57 PM
http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/News_And_Analysis/__Story_Inserts/graphics/__SPORTS/__A-M/honus_wagner_card.jpg
So rare that I seem to see it offered more than 4x per year. Yes, yes, I'd certainly take one.
I realize this post is sacrilegious.
Did anyone ever see the Mastro interview where he said that there was a Gem Mint card hiding within the jumbo borders?
Chiprop
I guess I agree with you. More for us. :)
(By the way, nice avatar!)
drdduet
09-03-2009, 02:08 PM
Tango Eggs Weaver.
AND the E90-1 Jax.
Tango Eggs Weaver.
AND the E90-1 Jax.
I will reiterate my disdain for the E90-1 Jax.....can't stand it.
BTW, I hear the real estate market in Chicago is cratering too :D
I think the '52 Mantle is vastly more over-rated than the Wagner. There are thousands of them. They are not even tough to find in high-grade. There are probably more Mantles in NM or better than there are T206 Wagners in existence. That said, it is popular for a reason as are all the "over-rated" cards. I have never been a big fan of the E90-1 Jackson because the face/nose area always looks weird, but the standing pose is cool. To each their own. It is the rookie card of one of the greatest hitters in the history of the game, from a very important set, and relatively speaking (compared to the '52 Mantle) is fairly tough. For my money, i would take a CJ Jackson over the E90-1 though any day. Aesthetics are important to me.
JimB
jujudrum
09-03-2009, 07:51 PM
Agreed Jim. In my opinion, the 1952 Topps Mantle is the most over-rated and over-hyped card in the history of the hobby. Desirable yes, but not nearly to the extent that the hype has created.
My most hated card(s):
Any card that i don't have. :)