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09-28-2007, 11:01 AM
Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>So, I see an item on eBay that I think was reconstructed (will not grade). But considering my limited knowledge of the tolerances/differences of the card issue I could very well be way off.<br /><br />Should I question real or fake for a live eBay auction?<br /><br />Or wait until it is over?<br />

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09-28-2007, 01:27 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>You might email a few friends about it and ask them privately.....Certainly your call but if you "out" an auction you might cost yourself money. No rules against it though....Your call

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09-29-2007, 06:47 AM
Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>Leon,<br /><br />I've already decided not to bid on it because it looks too fishy to me.<br /><br /><br />So, I am not worried about losing out on the item.<br /><br /><br /><br />I just don't want to out a live auction (if I am wrong) - and would hate to see someone here waste money on it (if I am correct).<br /><br /><br />If any golf collectors want to know what auction I am talking about - just email me.<br /><br />I guess thats the best way to handle it.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Joe<br /><br />

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10-02-2007, 06:26 AM
Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>Well - the auction in question is over.<br /><br />And through email correspondence with a few of you....<br /><br />I now believe the card to be genuine. A fellow golf collector was able to show me a PSA graded example that was very similar to the one in the eBay auction.<br /><br />I originally thought the card might have been an arts and crafts project... where the photo of old tom was cut out of one card and put onto a pristine one. I thought this because the card had some differences from my example (left and right photo borders, wording positioning on card). But it seems there are legit variances in this issue.<br /><br />so, I now say real. <br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200155527947&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200155527947&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010</a>

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10-02-2007, 06:12 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark M</b><p>Wow, that was some spirited bidding.

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10-08-2007, 04:07 PM
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>if the winner would have used a snipe service he may have saved himself a ton of money!

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10-10-2007, 12:36 PM
Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>also picked up the PSA 5 of that same card.<br /><br />(a card I had my eye on)<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200158279603&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200158279603&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010</a><br /><br /><br /><br />so who is "anaboss"....<br /><br />he or she should post here.<br />The more / the merrier.<br /><br />

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10-15-2007, 07:54 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Johnson</b><p>I doubt you will here from Anaboss...even when he has won my auctions he is pretty secretive.<br /><br />Trust me it is a real card. The main problem on the Ogdens is the grading consistency. I have had very nice cards come back PSA 4-5 and ones that I thought were a bit rough come back in the 6-7 range.<br /><br />Ogdens have black borders, which are very prone to chipping. They also often are found to be re-colored....those are the two issues to look out for.

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10-17-2007, 07:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>I am kind of kicking myself on the second auction -<br /><br />The PSA 5.<br /><br />I would have liked to upgrade mine.<br /><br />Although, who knows how high it would have gone -- anaboss might have had a big high bid in.

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10-18-2007, 10:51 AM
Posted By: <b>Scott S</b><p>I had mentioned to Joe D. previously about my previous transaction with the same seller, when I purchased two very sharp Ogdens (both were Vardon / Braid versions). I sent them to PSA and both came back re-colored. I looked these over up and down and don't see where they were re-colored, and they'll be on their way to SGC shortly for a second opinion. But the fact remained that a purchase from the same seller came back re-colored, so it did leave me with a bit of question on the Morris.