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08-14-2007, 12:02 PM
Posted By: <b>Davemri</b><p>I dont own any of these but thought they were all sheet cut. If that's the case, then PSA shouldn't grade them correct? I saw a guy at the National that had several different variations of Mikan with huge price tags (30,000?) Anyone have any other info about these print variations? Here's one currenlty on ebay.<br /><br /><img src="http://images.marketworks.com/hi/73/72763/3ARISEN1.jpg">

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08-14-2007, 04:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Dave, <br /><br />What do you mean by "sheet cut"? I have a set of '48 Bowmans that look like several cards were miscut. I'd say hand cut, except for the fact that the miscut cards are almost identical in the angle of the cut. I'd love to see tha layout of the full sheet so I could figure out what the mistake was. <br /><br />Here's a couple of examples. Blue back, red back, gray back, and the play cards, many miscut, just like these. <br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb189/jvb6034/1948BowmanBasketball.gif"><br /> <br /><br /><br />I've never bothered to get them graded because I thought I'd run into problems.

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08-14-2007, 05:43 PM
Posted By: <b>Davemri</b><p>From Mullins site<br /><br /><br />As some of you know, there exists a variation for the 1948 bowman cards. Known as "grey backs" it appears that the red ink ran dry on some sheets of the cards and, as a result, no red appears on the cards. Red was mainly used as the background color and that is how you get the term grey back. Now, grey backs are pretty rare and actually do not fetch that much of a premium. From what I have learned from Mike R. and Howard, I have developed a new theory on how the cards were distributed. It appears that PSA won't grade grey backs because they appear to be hand-cut. The theory then would be that, generally, the sheets were not cut at the factory and placed into packs. Instead the sheets were saved by someone (because they did not pass quality assurance and were not released into packs) only to later be cut and sold as collectibles. Now, I need to do research, but I assume that the grey backs are only found in series two (you can see an example of the grey backs on macavoy's site. he wants insane prices for them and he won't get them ... but check the pictures out). Now, MacAvoy's cards are actually of an additional rarity. The backs of the cards were triple printed with some other information (e.g., moviestar cards). I have not seen a triple printed back.<br /><br /> <br /><br />

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08-14-2007, 06:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Thanks for the info. <br /><br />I have 2nd series cards in blue, red and gray. These were my dad's cards, so I'm not getting any info on where he obtained them. <br /><br /><br />Do you have a link for either the Mullins or McAvoy sites. I guess I have a lot of research to do.

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08-14-2007, 06:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Here is Jeffrey Mullen's basketball card site. It's from a few years ago and hasn't been updated since. Jeff had a great idea to create a huge basketball card checklist with all variations and all, but didn't get too far.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sportscards.info/Basketball/index.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.sportscards.info/Basketball/index.htm</a><br /><br />Alan

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08-14-2007, 08:20 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Thanks, Alan.

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09-08-2007, 03:45 PM
Posted By: <b>Davemri</b><p>Here is a scan of a gray backed Mikan. PSA just labels it as authentic....<br /><br /><img src="http://ebay.mcavoysportcards.com/bskt/1948mikan_tp_psa.jpg">

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10-06-2007, 07:31 AM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Two Hi#s with 1948 Bowman Movie Star overprints.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/a48bowmanbbb.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/b48bowmanbbb.jpg"><br /><br /><br />TED Z