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08-31-2008, 12:01 PM
Posted By: <b>richie</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1220203370.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1220203358.JPG"><br />Does this look authentic? Also can anybody make out other autos. Thanks much.

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08-31-2008, 04:27 PM
Posted By: <b>D. Bergin</b><p>That looks like a great piece. Much better then all the modern Ali signatures we see today. I'd guess this was signed at Ali's Deer Lake Camp in upstate New York prior to his final bout with Trevor Berbick. It looks like several members of Ali's entourage signed it. <br /><br />The more important ones are Drew "Bundini" Brown on the front, one of his seconds but mainly there in a cheerleading capacity for Ali. He was quite a character. <br /><br />Center of back is Jimmy Ellis. A former Heavyweight titlist and a frequent visitor to Ali's camps. He was from the same hometown as Ali.<br /><br />Bottom left back. Eddie Mustafa Muhammad formerly known as Eddie Gregory. He was a Light Heavyweight Champion and he fought on the same card as Ali. It's possible this could have also been signed in the Bahamas if they were staying there a couple of weeks before the fights took place.<br /><br />Wali Muhammad, I believe he took over as trainer when Angelo Dundee refused to work this fight because he was worried about Ali's health.<br /><br />The rest are non-essential that I can tell, though there's a couple I can't make out because the scan is small.

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08-31-2008, 05:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Richie</b><p>Thanks Dave,<br />I was told it was signed at the nassua collisium . While he was training for the Trevor Berbick fight nov.24, 1981.

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08-31-2008, 05:21 PM
Posted By: <b>D. Bergin</b><p>I don't know if they had a coliseum but Nassau in the Bahamas certainly makes sense.<br /><br />

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08-31-2008, 05:47 PM
Posted By: <b>richie</b><p>Dave,<br />I was referring to him training at the nassau collisium on Long island NY prior to that fight. What does a piece like this go for. Thanks much

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09-01-2008, 04:51 PM
Posted By: <b>D. Bergin</b><p>I'd guess the seller was confused a bit. Ali's U.S. based training camp was in Deer Lake, New York. I'd never heard of him training in Long Island. He fought Trevor Berbick in Nassau in the Bahamas. Ali would often set up camp weeks ahead of time in the location he was to be fighting. This is probably where the autographs of Ali and his entourage were obtained.<br /><br />I'd venture value is somewhere in the $500-700 range.<br /><br />