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08-11-2007, 12:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>All 49 cards......minus Rocky Graziano (#50)<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/aleafboxers.jpg"><br /><br />TED Z

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08-14-2007, 03:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Jimmy</b><p>The main board has a great story about the Rockey Graziano card<br /><br />Jimmy

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08-20-2007, 08:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Randy SF</b><p>Could someone post a scan of the Rockey Graziano card? Does this card look like it belongs in the set? If I remember the last time I saw this card in a auction catalogue there was something about the card photo that did not match the rest of the set? <br /><br />Randy <br />

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08-21-2007, 04:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p><img src="http://www.boxingcarddigest.com/images/leaf/leaf1948graziano.jpg">

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08-21-2007, 04:12 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I have closely looked at two actual cards of the Graziano in the past; and, I can tell you it's no different than the<br /> other 49 cards in this Boxing set with respect to its front and back. It is card #50 and is printed on white cardboard,<br />as where all the other LEAF cards in the 1st press runs.<br /><br />TED Z

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08-21-2007, 04:21 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>So there are only two known?<br /><br />And assuming the Graziano had to be included on some of the sheets, do you know which player he replaced?

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08-21-2007, 05:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>If you look at my uncut sheet, in the right lowermost corner is Arturo Godoy who, I've been told replaced Graziano on the sheet.<br />I am not sure if this is fact or a rumor; but, I was told this by a hobby veteran back in 1984 when I acquired my Boxing sheet.<br /><br />I'm sure there are more than two Graziano cards, I've only seen two. There aren't too many more than that in circulation in the hobby.<br /><br />TED Z

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08-22-2007, 08:56 PM
Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>I've got a friend that has the Graziano and I've seen it- it definitely looks like it was part of the set. <br />An argument could certainly be made about the '33 Lajoie not being part of that set design, and the Cobb/Cobb not being part of T206, but in my mind at least Graziano is definitely part of the Leaf set- an much rarer than either of the above named cards.

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08-22-2007, 09:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>ANTHONY<br /><br />I once said what you just said regarding this card and I was laughed at. However, I said it before the T206 Joe Doyle error<br />card was known. Now, I'd say the Graziano and the Doyle error card are equally the two rarest sportscards in the hobby.<br /><br />TED Z

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08-22-2007, 11:16 PM
Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>There are lots of cards that only 1 example is known of- all the Allegheny's, just to name one. But of all the "blue chip" rarities the '32 ('33 actually) Lindstrom gets my vote for the rarest, with Graziano second. Doyle is a variation (as is Magie) and I'd put it a bit further done the list, but since I have no chance of owning any of these (except the Lajoie) my opinion doesn't mean squat.<br /> Any way you look at it Graziano is very tough, hoping Adam will chime in with an estimate of known examples. I thought it was 5, but could be wrong.

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08-23-2007, 08:02 AM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>ANTHONY<br /><br />The number of 5 cards of the Leaf Graziano is very similar to what I have heard. If true, then this card is at the same level<br />of scarcity as the Joe Doyle error and the US Caramel Fred Lindstrom.....of which there are also less than 10 cards known.<br /><br />TED Z

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08-23-2007, 08:44 AM
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>I can account for four of them. I've had the chance to look over one in person. Obviously a machine-cut card as issued. I don't think we are likely to see one offered for sale in the reasonably near future as every one I know of is owned by a rich collector who ain't selling.

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08-23-2007, 09:47 AM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>ADAM W<br /><br />Did I understand you correctly.....One collector has all 4 of the Graziano cards that you know of ?<br /><br />TED Z

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08-23-2007, 11:32 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I feel fortunate to be one of the very few to handle a Lindstrom- I had it in my possession for several months until it sold. I can safely say I will never have another.<br /><br />I think the Graziano suffers from not being that well known.

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08-23-2007, 04:43 PM
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>I can account for four different cards.

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08-24-2007, 08:15 AM
Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>One of the rare 1948 Leaf Rocky Graziano boxing card (PSA VG-EX 4) sold for $17,903 by Lelands in Dec 2001. I don't know who won it in that auction. <br />