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10-18-2007, 11:09 AM
Posted By: <b>Vanessa Phipps</b><p>This card is coming up in a local auction and Ive been told this is a very rare card. Is there anywhere that I can go to get a value on this card? The card has some pin holes in the top of the card and it has been trimmed on the outside, but it is signed by the mick! Any help would be great! Thanks

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10-18-2007, 08:29 PM
Posted By: <b>CN</b><p> I would make sure the autograph is authentic before bidding on it. Even it is the condition of the card would probably determine the value and it sounds like it is in poor condition so I would not think it is worth much especially if you want it for resale. CN

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10-18-2007, 08:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>I agree with CN. Also, the 1960 Post is one of those oversized jobs, not the usual horizontal cereal cards you might be used to seeing. Those pinholes in the top are probably from somebody pinning it to a wall or corkboard, etc. Re being trimmed -- aren't they ALL trimmed?...they're cut from a box!<br /><br />Edited to add: Vanessa -- these cards CAME with a FACSIMILE autograph! The Mantle card has it's on the lower right. If there's only one autograph on that card, well...I know your proclivity to buy first and ask questions later.

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10-18-2007, 09:18 PM
Posted By: <b>Vanessa Phipps</b><p>Sorry. The sinature is real. Has a coa from Psa. There is one of these cards on ebay right now for a buy it now price of $3000

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10-18-2007, 09:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Vanessa, I couldn't locate the item on ebay. Can you provide a link? Look, that card in raw VG goes for about $750 (2007 SCD cat.) The way you describe yours is nowhere near that, like a Poor, if gradeable at all. If you really want something with his autograph there are several nice autographed items up there to bid on that are real AND clean, and much cheaper.

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10-18-2007, 09:47 PM
Posted By: <b>George Dreher</b><p>Vanessa, it sounds like you have quite a bit of liquid cash to throw around on autographs. How long have you been collecting sportscards, etc?

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10-18-2007, 10:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>George, all I know is that the next time Vanessa goes out partying, we wanna be there!

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10-19-2007, 07:20 AM
Posted By: <b>Vanessa Phipps</b><p>The item number for the one that is buy it now for three thousand is:110165284894 The seller is:bjmcavoy. By the way, I didnt even tell you guys how much the minimum bid is on the item. So why give me crap about paying to much for it when I havent even bought the thing yet? Would you pay $50 to $75 for a authintic mickey mantle sig.? Thats probably what I'm going to buy it for!

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10-19-2007, 07:29 AM
Posted By: <b>Vanessa Phipps</b><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1960-Post-Cereal-Mickey-MANTLE-New-York-Yankees_W0QQitemZ110165284894QQihZ001QQcategoryZ60 488QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1960-Post-Cereal-Mickey-MANTLE-New-York-Yankees_W0QQitemZ110165284894QQihZ001QQcategoryZ60 488QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem</a><br /><br />here is the URL

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10-19-2007, 08:53 AM
Posted By: <b>jackgoodman</b><p>Checked the url. I don't see anything about a psa cert for the signature which is a facsimile autograph anyway. McAvoy would never sell that as a real autographed item. Am I missing something?

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10-19-2007, 09:00 AM
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Vanessa - no one is giving you "crap" at all. People here assume by your post that you are asking for advice. In this case, it is a good thing we did assume that, because:<br /><br />1. That is not Mantle's signature, it is printed on the card. It is part of the card. All of these cards have the signature printed. You will not have bought Mantle's signature if you buy this card as it appears on ebay.<br /> <br />2. I see no mention at all of a COA by PSA. I see nothing at all to indicate that PSA ever had this card in their possession. You would not want to take his word if he emailed you or told you on the phone that he had one. If he had one it would be on the listing.<br /><br />3. I don't see a minimum bid on the card, and in fact the card is not up for bidding at all. Perhaps you meant you made him a "best offer."?<br /><br />4. The card depicted online is easily worth the $50-75 you offered him, quite a bit more in fact. My question to you is, how does this price go from a BIN of $3,000 to $50-75?<br /><br />Doesn't any of this make you suspicious?

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10-19-2007, 03:33 PM
Posted By: <b>howard</b><p>Did I miss something. I thought Vanessa provided that link as an example of the card she is interested in, not the actual card.

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10-19-2007, 03:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Howard -- I think you're right. I must have misinterpreted her post. Good luck, Vanessa.

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10-19-2007, 03:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Vanessa Phipps</b><p>Yes guys the card I put a url to is just an example of the card that is coming up at a local auction in my area. The card I am talking about is a signed 1960 post cereal mickey mantle! So it has the factory sig. and anothern psa certified sig.

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10-19-2007, 04:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>Yes Vanessa, that is what you said.<br />Mantle's autograph on a baseball card is typically worth $200 if PSA verified.<br />More attractive or specialized presentations can draw larger bids.<br />The card which you describe, although attractive, has minimal collector value without the signature.<br />An offer of $200 should be reasonably safe, imo.<br />A greater offer would reflect your personal opinion that the item is more desireable than others.<br />But before you make that decision, search ebay for "Mantle Autograph PSA" and see the offerings and completed auctions.

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10-22-2007, 08:22 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Vanessa, has this auction happened yet? I'd be interested in the outcome when it does. Good luck with it.

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10-22-2007, 08:48 PM
Posted By: <b>Vanessa Phipps</b><p>No the auction is tuesday night. I went back by to look at the item and noticed that there is a minimum bid of $300. So I probably wont be bidding on the card.

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10-23-2007, 04:43 PM
Posted By: <b>Vanessa Phipps</b><p>Hey I went by the auction to take another look at this card and told the shop owner kind of what is being said on this forum about the value of the card. He said he will pay a thousand bucks a piece for any 60 post cereal mantle that I can find! He is that sure of its rarity and value. So if anyone has these cards out here ge in ouch wih me and we will sell them.

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10-23-2007, 06:07 PM
Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>These cards are not rare, I've got two of them and I paid an average of $50 each for them. A harder card to find is the '62 Post Roger Maris, it is also very desirable because it shows Maris' 1961 stats, and of course he hit 61 homers in 1961.<br /><br />Peter C.

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10-23-2007, 06:33 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Peter -- are you sure you have your Post Cereal's straight?<br />62 Maris' are plentiful and available with stats on ebay, in all conditions and prices. In contrast, the 60 Post Mantle, unless it's a bad cut job, is not that easy, and sells for quite a premium. Check your catalogues.

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10-23-2007, 07:17 PM
Posted By: <b>Vanessa Phipps</b><p>Exactly! Like I said if you have 1960 post cereal Mickey Mantles, I have a card shop owner who says he will give a grand a piece for them!!!!

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10-24-2007, 12:55 AM
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>that seems odd to me. He's willing to pay $1000 apiece, apparently regardless of condition, but he will sell one for $300.00 autographed if the minimum bid takes it. What's wrong with this picture?

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10-24-2007, 10:21 AM
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Todd - nothing wrong with the picture - people sell expensive stuff on ebay all the time with a 0.99 opening. Just because the bidding starts there doesn't mean it will end there.

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10-24-2007, 03:25 PM
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>in general, but here we have a local auction, presumably in Arkansas, not an ebay or National auction, where the seller may get stuck selling an autogrpahed Mantle for $300. I would think that if he was savvy, he would sell that piece on ebay, and maybe all the $1000 Mantles he would supposedly buy would end up there, who knows. Just seems odd to me, that's all.

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10-24-2007, 09:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Vanessa Phipps</b><p>Ok the post mantle sold for opening bid of $300. I researched this item extensively since I posted the first thread, and couldnt find a reason to buy that piece for the three hundred dollar price. I trust this card shop owner and have a great deal of respect for him! He is a very well known card dealer who has been doing this longer than I've been alive, but I think he missed the boat on this item. Thanks to all who contributed though. He did get a really nice piece in today: An authintic 1920s signed baseball signed by Babe Ruth and Lou Gherig! He will be pricing this to me tomorrow.