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09-28-2007, 12:08 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>For OBCBob, who asked about the cardboard version of these. A scan of the Boston Cardboard version is first, then a comparison of the cloth vs. cardboard varieties is below.<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/bostonactemblem.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/actionemblems.jpg">

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09-29-2007, 08:57 AM
Posted By: <b>Al</b><p>David---I picked up an uncut sheet of the card board issue in an e bay auction a few years back, but am one short of comleting the set in cloth form. <br><br>Also have two unopened packs, which come with a game card similar to but smaller than the 1980 game card I sent you.<br><br> Any thought yet on how if at all the latter was circulated. I doubt they were intended for packaging with the never packaged 1980 coins

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09-29-2007, 01:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Al:<br /><br />I am remiss on a number of fronts right now; unbelievably busy at work and home, which will not end for another 4 weeks or so. Just finished recovery from my hard drive cras as well (almost, iTunes is giving me some little hiccups) That said, I am on lunch break!<br /><br />The 80 coins and their non-attendant scratchoff card are interesting. If the coins and the scratchoff are not designed to be packaged together, then what do we make of the scratchoffs, of which a good sized pile exist? Were they designed for use with another project that never got off the ground? I would think there would have been a baseball theme to whatever product was envisioned. The fact Joe Sak had a lot from the Topps "Warehouse" is interesting too as he would often buy excess or unused inventory and sell it at showsn and in BHN/SCD back in the day, if my memory is correct. That almost suggests the product launch for the 80 scratchoffs failed. I had never heard of them until I saw a listing on Ebay a year or two ago but that is not uncommon with weird Topps "Proof" cards.<br /><br />What basis is there for the theory the coins were not designed to be packaged with the scratchoff? The coins seem rarer as well.<br /><br />As for the 73/74 Action Emblems, you may have bought the uncut sheet on Ebay in an auction I forgot to bid on a while back. I had bought a partial sheet just before that auction and wrongly assumed things were being blown out by the Topps Vault. For some reason I never tracked the full sheet.<br /><br />Does your uncut sheet have a date stamp on it? I am presuming the 1973 date is correct for these based on a Jan 73 stamp on my partial sheet (displayed here in another thread) and the fact they have no logos, common also to the 73 pinups/comics and the candy lids (I think that's right on the candy lids, not at home, can't double check). I find it strange the cardboard versions may have been inserted into packs as it would seemingly make more sense if they were proofs for the cloth sticker version. Now, another question is, what is the ratio of cloth to cardboard. It seems cloth is more prevalent but the sample size for both types is small. An what was with Topps and cloth in the 70's? 1970, 72, 76 and 77 all saw cloth baseball proofs/product plus whatever year these actually came out. Weird.<br /><br />Action Emblems are tough in either format, although unopened packs/wrappers do seem to pop up regularly. I only have 1 cloth emblem and 1 scratch off plus 8 of the Cardboard versions (I'm going to keep one and sell/trade the rest). I do not collect unopened packs, although wrappers have tempted me for a long time. Well, back to work (in a minute, I want to start a thread!)

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09-29-2007, 02:06 PM
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Here's a picture of a pack:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/baseball/packs/74ToppsActionEmblemsPack.jpg"><br /><br />I also find it hard to believe that the cardboard ones were included in the packs (although I've never opened one to find out). The fact that the label says "cloth stickers" implies that something inside inside the pack should be made of cloth. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />

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09-29-2007, 07:00 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Posting my partial uncut sheet showing the date:<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/73actionemblempartialproofsheet.jpg"><br /><br /><br />Al is this the one you bought? The dates look the same.<br /><br /><img src="http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/73toppsactionemblemsprrofsheet.jpg"><br /><br />

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09-30-2007, 01:36 PM
Posted By: <b>Al</b><p>David...my uncut sheet does not have any visible writing on it. I have been looking for the one cloth &quot;card&quot; I still need for some time. I got many of them when Topps Vault unloaded a bunch .<br><br>Bob---Jack Handy would be proud of your logic :-)

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09-30-2007, 03:12 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Steve Werley has these sometimes.

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10-01-2007, 11:50 AM
Posted By: <b>Marty</b><p>Al<br />I bought a group of these for resale. Which one are you missing?<br />marty@martyspsagradedcards.com

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10-01-2007, 04:53 PM
Posted By: <b>Al</b><p>Marty<br><br>I am missing Atlanta/Baltimore.

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10-02-2007, 09:14 PM
Posted By: <b>Marty</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1191287562.JPG"> <br /><br />Al<br />I did not see a link to your email in the last post.<br />Contact me at marty@martyspsagradedcards.com if you are interested.

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10-04-2007, 04:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Al</b><p>Marty--been out of town. Very interested. Will send you enail tomorrow